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Date:   Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:28:18 -0800
Reply-To:   Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
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From:   Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
Subject:   Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
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I'm with John, with intelligent use of atomic energy we can have a ready supply of electricity with which to heat homes, light them, and even produce electric cars, which are completely viable. Oil companies keep electric cars from becoming a reality. Courtney

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water

> Mike S wrote: >> At 07:51 AM 12/2/2007, John Rodgers wrote... >>> With an oil crisis looming, cheap fuel would be nice. So how about >>> using >>> salt water for fuel. >>> >>> John Kanzius, a communications engineer, retired, was looking for a >>> cure >>> to cancer and stumbled on this. I have a video of this if anyone would >>> care to post it on their website. It' probably not a new concept, >>> except >>> for me. >> >> Salt water doesn't burn, misunderstandings of the mainstream media >> notwithstanding. >> >> He bombards saltwater with radio waves to cause it to split into >> hydrogen and oxygen. Interesting, but it will always take as much or >> more energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen than is released >> when burning it (recombining the hydrogen and oxygen). >> >> > True, it really is only the components of the salt that are recombining > in combustion, after they have been split from each other in the first > place - AND it takes energy to do the split - more than what is produced > by the burning or combustion of the salt components. > > Yeah, it's a challenge. What is often forgotten by almost every one > except the science types in the debate over energy is that all this > energy (including atomic energy) comes from our sun. When that solar > energy reaches earth it goes through a series of changes of form, is > temporarily stores as coal, oil, wood, etc, and eventually released once > again to radiate out into space. We have a problem in the fact that we > need some forms of that energy more than we need others for our > civilization. That comes largely from our lack of knowledge - we do in > fact know a lot, but not much when compared to what we might come to > know. We need to know much more about how to efficiently extract usable > energy at various points along the energy stream as it flows through our > planet, without upsetting the ecology of our planet and making the place > unlivable.. That is a tough call, but we must get there. > > As for myself, at this point in time - and my opinion may well change as > new knowledge comes forth - I believe that atomic energy is the solution > to the need for ongoing primary power needs - including home energy and > vehicular energy requirements. I've seen prototype planning > presentations - so there is thinking along those lines - but thus far no > workable solutions. But I believe it will come, and part of those > solutions will also be what to do with related waste materials. I > certainly wouldn't want my garage to glow in the dark with radioactivity > nor my neighbors either. And I'm sure he wouldn't. So, there are issues, > but I do believe that solutions aren't impossible. > > As for current fuels - I guess gasoline is the fuel that pound for pound > has the most energy available for ease of release. We have not yet found > a truly suitable substitute, and I believe that the corn based fuels are > going to prove out to be a disaster in the making in the long haul. > Takes too much energy to make the stuff, plus it cuts into the food > supply in many ways. Not a good thing. > > Regards, > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver >


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