Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:15:41 -0800
Reply-To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Buying Vans on e-Bay
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Ebay-
They don't referee your problem with a buyer or
seller unless you file the dispute resolution
console.
Phone calling is not how you get disputes
resolved on ebay ,. unless you can talk to the
buyer/seeler on the phone.
I sell for a living on ebay. I have deals go bad
all the time. Big deal. If it was a brick and
mortar store (or wood) it would be about the
same.
There are unpleasant customers abounding.
And there are businesses who don't get my
business .
So on ebay. I choose who I'm doing business with
wisely.
If I get scammed, I did'nt do my homework.
Blaming ebay is like blaming the bricks (or the
wood) of the building. They are a venue, not
brokers.
Do they sit back and ignore your requests for
help?
They haven't me . If a sale goes sour I file the
Dispute Resolution ebay has in place.
This is what you do-Item significantly not as
described. You don't call ebay- they don't have a
hotline except for account fraud.
Disputes are resolved directly with the seller
/buyer.
Ebay doesn't get involved and take sides.
They let you solve it. If the buyer or seller
refuses to work out a solution with you, you
close the dispute and get your FVC back or the
buyer gets his money back after Paypal decides
the claim .
If the buyer uses a check, money order,western
union, but not a PayPal bank transfer, then he
can only blame himself .
PayPal does decide in your favor if you follow
the rules .
Case in point: I recently had a buyer file a
claim against me saying I sold him the wrong
part.
PayPal asked him to send this "wrong" part back
to me before he would be issued a refund.
he never returned the part.
No part, no refund.
That happens to me at least once a month.
They want to keep the part and the money.
That's a scam, Sam. Buying a car for huge sums
of money is very risky.
You can't truly inspect a car on the internet.
If the guy could afford that car, surely he could
afford a plane ticket, motel and car rental.
Robert
1982 Westfalia
--- David Etter <detter@MAIL.AURACOM.COM> wrote:
> I sat up in bed this morning in horror and
> turned the radio up..
> The CBC (Cdn. Broadcasting Corp) aired
> an article about this
> poor man who bought a car through e-Bay but
> ended up with no car and
> was out $20,000.xx, AND he got less than no
> support from e-Bay
> concerning his loss. He reported it to the RCMP
> who then contacted
> e-Bay. The RCMP representative said that e-Bay
> refused to talk to
> them and refused to acknowledge that "Criminal
> elements had figured
> out a way to highjack e-Bay web-sites". He also
> said.."I guess they
> don't want the public to know this is possible
> so they won't talk
> about it."
> The man in question said that he trys
> to contact e-Bay then
> as soon as he gives them his I.D. name or
> password, he is
> disconnected.. everytime..
> Now, I'm sure that 'criminals' are not
> going to highjack the
> site that sells a 1982 diesel radiator, but it
> does reinforce my own
> experience of getting no support from e-Bay or
> Pay-Pal for a deal
> gone bad even if it was a small transaction.
> Caveat Emptor !
> I just thank my lucky stars that this
> VW forum and others
> like it have enough savvy members who are aware
> of what's out there
> for sale and whether or not it's a scam.
> Several times I've read where members
> of our forum have
> identified and warned others of a possible
> scam. I just feel sorry
> for the poor fellow who lost $20,000.xx trying
> to buy a car on e-Bay.
> I think every member of the various VW forums
> should be grateful for
> the close support we get from one another.
> THANK YOU ALL !
>
>
> David (dsl82westy)
>
> P.S.:
> Does anyone know how it is possible for
> "The Criminal
> Element" to do such a thing. I thought that
> with a vehicle purchase
> on e-Bay a buyer had the "Right" to retract a
> bid once he found out
> that the vehicle wasn't as advertised.
>
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