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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2007 00:41:47 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sailing experience, anyone? (No Vanagon Content)
Comments: To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
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Hi, I know this is on the list. Just ignore it if you want. Robert I have LOTS of sailing experience, thousands of hours maybe, in san Francisco bay and the Gulf of the Farrallons, and some pacific ocean. Kayaker too btw. First thing, I don't see what or how you are planning to tow it to deeper water. If it's float freely where it is at high tide, fine .....however you can move it then, even if you two it with kayaks ( "almost" I say as there would have to be zero current or wind ) .. But usually you tow a boat like that with the keep dragging in the mud some until it's fully floating. Usually you have a power boat to pull it off from where it stuck and to tow it or at least control where it is. ok- tie it to the buoy. Doesn't sound like you have that part figured out yet, hoe to toe it away from the beach ???? Are planning to use the boy to tow from ? like you put a big pulley ( block in marine terms ) and then use the westy to pull the boat away from the beach using a line through the block on the buoy. ? Scott turbovans

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Robert Keezer Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:50 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Sailing experience, anyone? (No Vanagon Content)

This question may appeal to anyone who owns a sailboat, or who sails, or who just klnows more than I do about them. I have never been sailing.

I am attempting to kedge a sailboat off a beach this Friday.

Kedging is the nautical term for winching.

It's been there for 46 days, on a remote beach, high and dry, since it was grounded there October 18. Several good floating high tides have come and gone. The owner has abandoned it.

It's a wood hull, 30 feet long, lead keel, no engine, but has sails. It's been spared damage by winter storms but came very close today.

A friend is helping me. We have a chain , Navy anchor, winches (2 2-ton come-alongs.

Still needed is 100 feet of line .

I have been hiking and paddling this beach all my life. I work long hours, 6 days a week- I guess you could say this challenge is a break from the daily grind.

And I hate to see it lost. There's a bouy out 100 yds or so we will tie up to after we float it.

We have inspected the hull- it is sound, no leaks, the bilge had only 3 or 4 gallons of water, and the waves wash around the boat at high tide.

The approach to the low -tide mark is smooth and clear. If we can get it out 50 feet that will be over 7 feet of water at high tide.

Any ideas or advice p-mail me.

I told you there was no Vanagon content. Just that i will be using my Westfalia to bring the kayaks down where we'll be using to bring the towing equipment with.

Robert

1982 Westfalia

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