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Date:         Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:47:21 -0800
Reply-To:     Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Buying Vans on e-Bay
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RE: eBay Scam Reading through the thread here and following to the news article and radio interview leads me to post this: First, the article first says he 'wired' the money but then says he sent it through a fake 'safe payment' (escrow?) page setup by the scammer. eBay has a big warning, in several places, against ever wiring money to anyone or setting up a direct funds transfer. They claim the victim was an experienced eBayer, should have known better. Second, the scammer placed an ad using a legitimate account that he/she had account name and password for. The only way the scammer had the password is carelessness or stupidity on the part of the legitimate owner of that account. That's not eBays fault. Someone mentioned getting phishing email making demands regarding eBay last week and wondered how they got his email address. They got it right here or any other forum you are on or in a million other ways that can be used to intercept or 'harvest' email addresses. The phishing email is sent out to any address they can get. They don't know whether or not you even have an eBay or PayPal account, just hope to hit some people that do and are naive enough to follow the link provided and then fill in account numbers, passwords, etc. eBay make it very clear (and repeats the message over and over again) that any legit communication from eBay will contain your full real name in the message. That will be missing from the phishing emails. Why wasn't the phishing email sent to eBay so that they could shut down that source? It's really simple to hit the Forward button and send the fake stuff to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com. ou will then get a confirming message back from them. And the allegation that eBay is trying to 'hide' the problem. What is that based on? Because eBay doesn't kow tow to the demands of a reporter? Or the police claiming that they get 'no cooperation'? Every police department has the staff and the tools to chase down virtually any communication on the Internet, they don't need eBays help on something like that. And if the police have a good case they will have no problem getting a court order to get any further info they need from eBay. eBay would be totally irresponsible to give out information to anyone that simply asked for it, the legal process is required to protect all involved including thosee of us here. Now getting off my soap box, need to package a couple of items I just sold on eBay and get them into the mail....


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