Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:40:52 -0800
Reply-To: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
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Dude, chill out. How did a joke about Yull Brown and the supposed
conspiracy against him turn into a discussion about genocide?
Take a pill, a beer, or whatever you need to calm down...
Perhaps a camping trip in your Westy to solitary location for deep,
meaningful meditation? Whatever stabilizes your mood....
BTW: Your tank of Brown's Gas is ready.
Happy Post-Frydaye,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto:lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:28 PM
To: VW Doka
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
Yep, knew it was coming, the UFOs at area 51 ... decades of disinfo
campaigns have people compulsively equating any conspiracy truth with
non-sense, and making a joke of it. He He. Even when millions die over the
effects of the policies. I'm laughin'! Hundreds of countries are in the grip
of these international murders who have things just the way they want it,
including genocide. Hey, but I'm up for some more jokes about it.
----- Original Message ----
From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 4:10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of an international
conspiracy. You know... all the countries plotting against one poor
intellectual. None of them daring break the agreement regardless of how
it
might help their plight. Perfectly plausible.
Of course, it would be much simpler if the government would just release
the
technology they acquired from all those crashed UFOs stored at Area 51...
Happy Frydaye,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto:lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:42 PM
To: VW Doka; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
Yes, the US is not ruled by an oiligarchy and does not start wars based
on
self inflicted false flag attacks on its own citizens, to provide public
reasons for wars of aggression to steal the resources of other nations,
killing millions of innocent incidentally people as "collateral damage",
never happened.
And Tesla, another energy pioneer, was not robbed blind or murdered by
the
same crime families who made their fortune financing the Third Reich.
----- Original Message ----
From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:25:00 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but... oh wait... I forgot it's
friday.
Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Paul N. Oliver
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:58 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
Dr. Yull Brown came to the US in the mid 70's because of the "oil
embargo"
with his car that ran on water. Shortly after getting in touch with
government officials he showed and fully explained how it work only to
be
arrested and jailed. It had always been his goal to escape the USSR and
come
to "America" land of the free, to find it no different than the
oppressive
government he'd left behind.
When released, he left the US intending never to return, it was in
Australia
that he went to next and did many great discoveries for the use of
"Browns
Gas." It was through a group of investors from US and Canada that he was
encouraged to give America another chance. This was in the 90's and he
was
getting up in age and starting to have some health problems (cancer)
when
it
was learned that he had developed a way to neutralize nuclear waste,
that
many business men did everything to gain this technology. But before
anything really came of it he passed away from cancer.
Many on the internet claim to know his secrets, some do as with our
group
many of us know much of his work but to the best of my knowledge he
never
fully disclosed how nuclear waste could be made harmless, he did tell me
enough that given the resources I believe I figure it out.
I have heard all the insults that how could "I" know more than the most
brilliant minds of the world did not know! It's very simple, no matter
what
our government says, it never wants anyone to have the ability to
neutralize
nuclear waste; 1) The taxpayers of the USA pay 400 billion dollars a
year
to
store nuclear waste, this is easy big business a real cash cow that
those
who have don't want to lose. 2) Once it is understood that nuclear waste
can
be made safe, countries will not fear to use nuclear weapons.
Our company could only get China to build Browns Gas generators of which
I
sold 6 at $10,000 each. The Chinese know more uses for Browns Gas than
anyone else in the world. This sould be cause for some concern.
Do a search for Brown's Gas or Yull Brown, Dennis Lee, Better World
Technology to find out more. Be ready to forget most of what you learned
in
physics class when it comes to using Browns Gas in cutting and welding
of
materials (makes sand into glass in seconds).
http://www.brownsgas.com/brownsgashome.html
http://www.savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/
Remember water is only HHO and it does burn/explode quite well.
Electrolysis
used to break it down requires the presence of conductive particulates
in
the solution or it won't break down. The gas generator uses electrolytes
(salts) to do this.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "tom ring" <taring@TARING.ORG>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
>I haven't commented in a year or so, but this one needs one.
>
> B as in B.
>
> S as in S.
>
> Very B and very S.
>
> As Scotty would say "I can nah change the laws of physics Captain!"
>
> tom
> K0TAR
>
> 85 Westy - Albert
>
> On 5 Dec 2007 at 6:19, Paul N. Oliver wrote:
>
>> Do a web search for "Browns Gas" I worked with Ural Brown before he
>> passed
>> away in 97 or 98 and we were getting 200+mpgs on tap water.
>>
>> To much "Government RED tape" to every get to market. Had 'bugs" to
still
>> work out. Look it up can send more info for all the others NUTS like
me
>> who
>> have powered motors on water (h2o)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
>>
>>
>> > Hmmmm ... one would think that if salt water could be made into a
>> > viable
>> > fuel that the Navy would have latched onto it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Rodgers wrote:
>> >> With an oil crisis looming, cheap fuel would be nice. So how about
>> >> using
>> >> salt water for fuel.
>> >>
>> >> John Kanzius, a communications engineer, retired, was looking for
a
>> >> cure
>> >> to cancer and stumbled on this. I have a video of this if anyone
would
>> >> care to post it on their website. It' probably not a new concept,
>> >> except
>> >> for me.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone?
>> >>
>> >> John Rodgers
>> >> 88 GL Diver/.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
> 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> taring@taring.org
>
> What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations
> involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume
it
> will
> be pretty bad.
> - Dave Barry
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