Date:         Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:42:19 -0500
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Paul N. Oliver wrote:
> What really makes you think "over-unity" is impossible? Just because
> someone
> said so?
>
> What happened to education? Where are the schools that teach instead of
> preach (indoctrinate), telling what you can't do and giving all the reasons
> why it can't be done.

education has undergone a great homogenization in the last 15 years or
so.  We don't fund art, music or other "less valuable" subjects even
when they've been shown to enhance learning of every subject.

Government requires quantitative testing in many places to justify
funding institutions but no one ever asks for qualitative assessments.

> Go back and read history, just 200 years ago in the 800's when the leading
> scientist's of the day claimed everything possible to be discovered had
> already been discovered.

> They laughed at the ideal of telephones, refrigeration, radio waves, flight
> by "heavier than air" machines, space travel, even germs...all were classed
> only as fiction!

New ideas are always in conflict with the existing paradigm.  They are
saying something new in hope of better explaining an observed phenomenon
  then the existing explanation.  The scientific method is to test and
challenge that new idea/explanation to prevent something false from
becoming accepted.

Unfortunately, that means new ideas that actually have merit are lumped
in with new ideas that are scams and bulls$%@t and it's then likely that
many without information or insight will call both bulls$%@.

> But some were not laughing or listening to them and so they built the
> things
> we take for granted today!
>
> Paul

..the problem with pushing the bounds of human knowledge and expression
is that it usually requires someone to not be very attached to being
accepted by others, requires enough money and resources to do what you
have to in pursuit of your idea and are able to resist the necessary
challenges and assaults by the establishment when you go public.

What troubles me is how often a charlatan with sales skills can defraud
others easily while someone with an idea of substance may go for long
periods and even have their life ruined over it.

Thankfully the Vanagon is a proven vehicle and no one I'm aware of
suffered too greatly in it's development.

; )


--Wil