Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:25:55 -0800
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: ECU relocation / new 1.9 harnesses
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Well, that's all nice, fine and good for passenger models where there's room
underneath the back seat and the area is not usually considered for storage
except for loose french fries, burger wrappers, legos, etc. But the "box"
area under a Westfalia seat is very near and dear for maximum use for
storage, especially for a person like me who lives in one "full-time". Even
though it takes up little space, the way I pack stuff (and spare parts)
under the rear seat, there would be the chance it might overheat because I
leave NO airspace whatsoever. Maybe the rear portion of the closet or even
in the "airspace" just under the closet might be a better place for the ECU.
On the 75-79 Fuel Injected Beetles, they placed the ECU in the rear luggage
compartment behind the rear seat. When they did that I couldn't put a
regular-sized suitcase there - had to go to a smaller size (but that was a
very, very long time ago in a galaxy far, far away).
As another fer instance, I have my Dish Network control box mounted inside
the front closet like Larry Chase does on his Roadhaus. Ventilation is
good, even better when I leave the closet door open while using it.
I'm just sayin'.........;-)
--
Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On Dec 11, 2007 8:36 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
wrote:
> I just look at what the manufacturers do.
> They usually, and VW did with the vanagon starting in 86, but it in the
> passenger compartment somewhere.
> After all, that's the driest, most temp stable part of the car - where the
> people go !
> As an engine conversion specialist, I would only put the ecu under the
> back
> seat.
> It's a nice short shot forward from the left forward corner of the engine
> compartment to the left side of the under-the-rear-seat-area.
> It's really easy to get at there, not buried under the dash or in a kick
> panel like subaru or Volvo respectively. You can get right to it for
> testing, whatever, stays nice n' dry there etc.
> And takes up very little room under the back seat.
> I even take the 86 and alter 2.1 metal ECU cover and use them to mount
> ECU's in, looks factory, etc.
> Just watch how VW changes things - they 'used to' anyway, say how many
> improvements there were from one year to the next in the old buses - point
> is, they upgraded things as the went along. And after having the ecu in
> the
> back from 1980 to 1895, they moved it under the back seat starting with
> the
> 2.1 engine in 86. They didn't do it to use up more wire; they did it
> because it's an improvement.
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Old Volks Home
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:13 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: ECU relocation / new 1.9 harnesses
>
> Just that it would be another location for dust, dirt and mositure to get
> in, even if equipped with a sealing boot. Multiple connections can result
> in potential signal loss, although it would probably be negligible.
>
> Why would someone want to relocate the ECU anyway? You've got the benefit
> of airflow from the left airscoop to keep it nice and cool. Besides,
> "room"
> is at a premium in my Westy with every nook and cranny spoken for :-)
> --
> Jim Thompson
> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> 73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> ***********************************
> On Dec 11, 2007 2:39 PM, Brendan Slevin <brendan@bellatazza.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd be be more interested in a pig tail to relocate the ECU with the
> > existing wiring harness. Anyone see any problems with this?
> >
> >
> > Brendan
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> Of
> > Bob Donalds
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:32 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: ECU relocation / new 1.9 harnesses
> >
> > as asked to post
> > Bob
> > To: Bob Donalds
> > Cc: fonman4277@COMCAST.NET
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: So thar I was: Now-ECU relocation
> >
> >
> > I am currently in the final stages of development for the
> 1.9Ldigijet
> > harness. I am looking at starting production sometime after the first
> of
> > the year. I would definitely be able to add some extra length in order
> to
> > relocate the ECU. Once I get into production and get everything ironed
> > out,
> > I can look into the modifications needed for relocating the ECU wherever
> > you
> > desire. Let me know if you have any questions, otherwise I will get
> back
> > in
> > touch with you when the digijet harness is ready to go.
> >
> > could put it on the list. It would also be wonderful if I could
> get
> > an idea of what kind of quantities there would be a demand for.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > KYLE
> >
> > www.kyleautomotivespecialties.com
> > (440) 225-1506
> >
> > Bob Donalds <donalds1@verizon.net> wrote:
> > there is a fella that makes harnesses for the early injected vans
> > he could custom make a harness to have the didijet ECU sit
> anyplace
> > http://www.kyleautomotivespecialyties.com
> > he does nice work I am having him make me a harness for my 85
> > not sure if he is in production for the digijet harness yet
> > Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vdub Guy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:02 AM
> > Subject: Was: So thar I was: Now-ECU relocation
> >
> >
> > >> If I was making a 1.9 waterboxer into my 'go anywhere , do
> > anything'
> > >> world
> > >> class vehicle, I'd move the ecu to under the back seat. It
> might
> > be
> > >> possible
> > >> to do it without extending wires.
> > >> I haven't tired, ( yet ) but it's telling that for the next
> > model
> > 86 and
> > >> 2.1, the ecu went under the back seat
> > >
> > >
> > > What about under the rear storage cabinet (assuming a Westy).
> > I've
> > seen
> > > several Subaru conversions where the ECU was located there, and
> > it's right
> > > above the stock VW location. Jeff
> >
>
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