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Date:         Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:24:56 -0800
Reply-To:     David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: AMC Cylinder Head Question
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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I am pretty sure it makes the same noise in neutral. I checked that at least 10 times already. But honestly I did not check the CV joint. So that is indeed something to check. The CV joints have been reasonably quiet for many years. That's why I did not suspect anything would go wrong with them.

David

--- Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:

> People are thinking that one of your CV joint flanges might have had the > bolts fall out, or the last one or two break off. > You just need to be super sure this isn't what's gong on before condemning > the transmission. > > As for a CV joint itself blowing out and causing noises, that's possible, > remotely. I'd think it would have to be noisy and clunky for a long, long > time before that would happen, but it is possible. > I have seen people drive a cv joint until it just separates ( in a diesel > rabbit ) but that would be after practically years of driving it completely > shot in the first place. > > But if you confirm that the output flanges on the transmission are not > turning, and you have bad noises in neutral with the clutch up, then it > would be internal to the transmission. > > 'shattered sleeve' is possible, but unlikely. I've never seen any problems > with those, but anything is possible of course ! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > David Kao > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:00 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: AMC Cylinder Head Question > > There are two driving shafts in the transmission. You can call one > input shaft and the other output shaft. The output shaft drives the > ring gear and the drive shaft and CV joints. With the gears set in > neutral the output shaft is not spinning. So the noise really can not > be from the CV joints. It is probably a shattered sleeve on the input > shaft that connects the main shafts in the bell housing and the main > shaft in the gear box. Or there is something in the gear box. If it is > the sleeve I am extremely lucky. It can be easily replaced. I have had > a chattering clutch for many years. The sleeve may be worn badly then > finally gave up. > > It broke before I try Scott's suggestion to give the clutch a good > grinding. It is a used trans I put on several years ago. I anticipated > the break down so it was not a total surprise to me. > > David > > > --- Karl Mullendore <groups@westyventures.com> wrote: > > > I would have someone else sit in the driver's seat while the engine is > > running and tranny being engaged (forward only!), then look underneath > > at the tranny to see if either output flange of axle is turning. Still > > sounds like a CV joint could be a possibility. After this check, THEN > > you can say tranny for sure (or not). > > > > Karl > > > > David Kao wrote: > > > Yes, it makes bad clunking noise even in neutral as soon as I start to > > > release the pedal. It's only as good as a core now. > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >

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