Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:42:50 -0800
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
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All of which goes to show once again why we DO NOT DISCUSS POLITICS ON THIS
LIST. Religion too, while we're here.
Just Vanagons please, and directly related topics.
Thanks
On Dec 8, 2007 4:28 PM, Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Not a she, not nuts just sick and tired of the empty headed and
> irresponsible no-nothing attitudes which make these events happen
> over and over again.
>
> Go back to sleep, watch some more TV, your hopeless.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> tom ring
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:03 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
>
> Yeah, she sent me a "private" (with a copy to something called the New
> Democrats) wacked out message also complaining that I was ignoring the
> death of millions and that Tesla was screwed by unknown
> plotters, and that the Bush family, the Masons and others were behind
> everything else bad in the world.
>
> She's just nuts. Nothing to worry about if you don't have to listen to
> her I suppose.
>
> tom
> K0TAR
>
> On 8 Dec 2007 at 16:19, Leslie Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Does not merit a public response, sent privately.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > Behalf Of VW Doka
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:42 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > And just when did I joke about policies that end up killing millions of
> people?
> >
> > Get your facts straight before you start accusing people. It looks to
> me that you're just as bad as those you rail against.
> >
> > The real joke is you...
> >
> > Sorry for WOB people. I will no longer respond to this loser on the
> list.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie Schwartz [mailto:lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:05 PM
> > To: 'VW Doka'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: RE: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > I respect skepticism, but I do not respect jokes made about policies
> > that end up killing millions of people and I am not going to just let
> something like that pass un-responded to. That is how my
> personal morality works.
> >
> > Chill out yourself, Go back to you TV, everything is fine, there is no
> > dark spot on your soul, there is nothing in this realm you are
> responsible for. Ignorance Is Strength.
> >
> > Keep the jokes coming.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > Behalf Of VW Doka
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 2:41 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > Dude, chill out. How did a joke about Yull Brown and the supposed
> conspiracy against him turn into a discussion about genocide?
> >
> > Take a pill, a beer, or whatever you need to calm down...
> >
> > Perhaps a camping trip in your Westy to solitary location for deep,
> meaningful meditation? Whatever stabilizes your mood....
> >
> > BTW: Your tank of Brown's Gas is ready.
> >
> >
> > Happy Post-Frydaye,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto:lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:28 PM
> > To: VW Doka
> > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Yep, knew it was coming, the UFOs at area 51 ... decades of disinfo
> > campaigns have people compulsively equating any conspiracy truth with
> non-sense, and making a joke of it. He He. Even when
> millions die over the effects of the policies. I'm laughin'!
> > Hundreds of countries are in the grip of these international murders who
> have things just the way they want it, including
> genocide.
> > Hey, but I'm up for some more jokes about it.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 4:10:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of an international
> > conspiracy. You know... all the countries plotting against one poor
> > intellectual. None of them daring break the agreement regardless of
> how it
> > might help their plight. Perfectly plausible.
> >
> > Of course, it would be much simpler if the government would just
> release the
> > technology they acquired from all those crashed UFOs stored at Area
> 51...
> >
> > Happy Frydaye,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto:lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:42 PM
> > To: VW Doka; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Yes, the US is not ruled by an oiligarchy and does not start wars
> based on
> > self inflicted false flag attacks on its own citizens, to provide
> public
> > reasons for wars of aggression to steal the resources of other
> nations,
> > killing millions of innocent incidentally people as "collateral
> damage",
> > never happened.
> >
> > And Tesla, another energy pioneer, was not robbed blind or murdered
> by the
> > same crime families who made their fortune financing the Third Reich.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:25:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but... oh wait... I forgot
> it's
> > friday.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On
> Behalf
> > Of Paul N. Oliver
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:58 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Dr. Yull Brown came to the US in the mid 70's because of the "oil
> embargo"
> > with his car that ran on water. Shortly after getting in touch with
> > government officials he showed and fully explained how it work only
> to be
> > arrested and jailed. It had always been his goal to escape the USSR
> and
> > come
> > to "America" land of the free, to find it no different than the
> oppressive
> > government he'd left behind.
> >
> > When released, he left the US intending never to return, it was in
> > Australia
> > that he went to next and did many great discoveries for the use of
> "Browns
> > Gas." It was through a group of investors from US and Canada that he
> was
> > encouraged to give America another chance. This was in the 90's and
> he was
> > getting up in age and starting to have some health problems (cancer)
> when
> > it
> > was learned that he had developed a way to neutralize nuclear waste,
> that
> > many business men did everything to gain this technology. But before
> > anything really came of it he passed away from cancer.
> >
> > Many on the internet claim to know his secrets, some do as with our
> group
> > many of us know much of his work but to the best of my knowledge he
> never
> > fully disclosed how nuclear waste could be made harmless, he did
> tell me
> > enough that given the resources I believe I figure it out.
> >
> > I have heard all the insults that how could "I" know more than the
> most
> > brilliant minds of the world did not know! It's very simple, no
> matter
> > what
> > our government says, it never wants anyone to have the ability to
> > neutralize
> > nuclear waste; 1) The taxpayers of the USA pay 400 billion dollars a
> year
> > to
> > store nuclear waste, this is easy big business a real cash cow that
> those
> > who have don't want to lose. 2) Once it is understood that nuclear
> waste
> > can
> > be made safe, countries will not fear to use nuclear weapons.
> >
> > Our company could only get China to build Browns Gas generators of
> which I
> > sold 6 at $10,000 each. The Chinese know more uses for Browns Gas
> than
> > anyone else in the world. This sould be cause for some concern.
> >
> > Do a search for Brown's Gas or Yull Brown, Dennis Lee, Better World
> > Technology to find out more. Be ready to forget most of what you
> learned
> > in
> > physics class when it comes to using Browns Gas in cutting and
> welding of
> > materials (makes sand into glass in seconds).
> >
> > http://www.brownsgas.com/brownsgashome.html
> >
> > http://www.savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/
> >
> > Remember water is only HHO and it does burn/explode quite well.
> > Electrolysis
> > used to break it down requires the presence of conductive
> particulates in
> > the solution or it won't break down. The gas generator uses
> electrolytes
> > (salts) to do this.
> > Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tom ring" <taring@TARING.ORG>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > >I haven't commented in a year or so, but this one needs one.
> > >
> > > B as in B.
> > >
> > > S as in S.
> > >
> > > Very B and very S.
> > >
> > > As Scotty would say "I can nah change the laws of physics
> Captain!"
> > >
> > > tom
> > > K0TAR
> > >
> > > 85 Westy - Albert
> > >
> > > On 5 Dec 2007 at 6:19, Paul N. Oliver wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do a web search for "Browns Gas" I worked with Ural Brown before
> he
> > >> passed
> > >> away in 97 or 98 and we were getting 200+mpgs on tap water.
> > >>
> > >> To much "Government RED tape" to every get to market. Had 'bugs"
> to
> > still
> > >> work out. Look it up can send more info for all the others NUTS
> like
> > me
> > >> who
> > >> have powered motors on water (h2o)
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
> > >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:08 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hmmmm ... one would think that if salt water could be made into
> a
> > >> > viable
> > >> > fuel that the Navy would have latched onto it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > John Rodgers wrote:
> > >> >> With an oil crisis looming, cheap fuel would be nice. So how
> about
> > >> >> using
> > >> >> salt water for fuel.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> John Kanzius, a communications engineer, retired, was looking
> for a
> > >> >> cure
> > >> >> to cancer and stumbled on this. I have a video of this if
> anyone
> > would
> > >> >> care to post it on their website. It' probably not a new
> concept,
> > >> >> except
> > >> >> for me.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Anyone?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> John Rodgers
> > >> >> 88 GL Diver/.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database:
> > >> > 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: 11/29/2007 8:32 PM
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
> > > 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> > > 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> > > taring@taring.org
> > >
> > > What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from
> realistic
> > > simulations
> > > involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can
> assume it
> > > will
> > > be pretty bad.
> > > - Dave Barry
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > 12/6/2007 10:11 AM
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
> 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> taring@taring.org
>
> What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory
> frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad.
> - Dave Barry
> -----------------------------------------
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
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