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Date:         Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: 2.1wbx + auto trans into 85 GL
Comments: To: Evan Mac Donald <macdonald1987@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <392603.9131.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Well Dylan, you ought to be thoroughly confused by now - lol !

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Evan Mac Donald Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:56 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: 2.1wbx + auto trans into 85 GL

There is no difference in the installation of an auto trans from a '91 to an auto trans from an '85. My daily driver '85 is right now running the complete trans from my '91 parts van. The mounts, linkage, everyting is all the same. The internals between transmissions differ, but we ain't goin' there! The biggest problem will be swapping the coolant items specific to a 1.9 over, onto your 2.1. The waterpump, thermostat housing, croos-over tube, etc., etc., will all bolt up, but will need to be swapped. The distibutor is another notable "keeper". You do not need or really want to change over the ECU and harness. Lots more trouble than the benefits to be gained.

Just remember to write down somewhere that the engine is not stock....!

dylan friedman <insyncro@yahoo.com> wrote: As always I should have explained more......................

What I am looking to do is swap the entire driveline from a 91 Carat into an 85 Westy. The Carat had 60k miles when totaled, front impact and the Westy needs both engine and trans. I have all the wiring from the Carat intact so I would rather upgrade the Westy with all the Carat stuff in the engine bay.

I am trying to keep the labor and time way down on this project and not disassemble either engine. So I don't even plan on separating the engine from the trans. Out of one and into the other.

Thanks to all who fired off quick replies and step by step for the engine.

df

----- Original Message ---- From: Evan Mac Donald <macdonald1987@SBCGLOBAL.NET> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2007 12:28:47 PM Subject: Re: 2.1wbx into 85 GL

There is a great write-up of how-to-do for just this project already available:

http://www.oldvolkshome.com/19to21.htm

This is the guide I am using right now, to get things set up for my engine swap in the spring.

dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM> wrote: I am contemplating swapping in a fresh 2.1 wbx in place of a failed 1.9 in a 85 GL. I have numerous late model 2.1 engine bay harnesses and ecus. Is this a plug and play type swap or is the older wiring from the ignition and front of van not capable of the swap?

TIA,

dylan


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