Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:45:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
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""Minor porting""
I've done this to 2 engine's I've rebuilt..... clearly
shows..........
BOB..... Your the man!
Bob Donalds wrote:
> Please
> there is no fuel for the 112 HP pistons that's almost 10 to 1. The
> gain in
> HP per point of compression is 4% If you have the octane and you don't. I
> have a used set of 10 to 1 piston on the shelf they look like they
> have been
> hit with a shot gun blast of bird shot.
> knock knock who's there
> There are much better ways to make more power than boosting compression.
> Minor porting properly done valve job checking cylinders bores for
> taper and
> out of round and correcting that plus attention to tuning will give
> you more
> than 4%
> The loss of power with too much compression and detonation is a much
> larger
> % as Lucas at go westy will tell you,
> He has been dropping his compression ratios as time goes by on all his
> big
> motors
>
> http://www.misterfixit.com/deton.htm a primer on this subject
>
> I am willing to sell one or two ECUs with out an engine purchase
> Mileage is always about MPH the ECUs is about power so 16 MPG is low
> but how
> fast are you going
> and how important is the power
>
> Bob Donalds
> Boston Engine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VW Doka" <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
>
>> No idea on fuel mileage, but you'll have to run premium gas if you're
>> running the 112hp pistons.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Daniel - Shazam [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:54 PM
>> To: 'VW Doka'
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: RE: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>>
>> Very good, thanks for mentioning that.
>> Any thoughts or experience on my fuel mileage question ?
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> VW Doka
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:35 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>> You don't get the 112hp with just the Euro ECU, you still need the 112hp
>> piston & cylinder set.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>> Of Scott Daniel - Shazam
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:21 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>>
>> Hey Bob,
>> All good stuff. You sound like Da Man all right.
>> I have one westy running with a 2.1 engine but the 1.9 fuel system,
>> and it
>> does seem to go quite well. ( it's for sale btw ) So my interest in
>> that
>> configuration is high right now.
>> On those euro ECU's ....................I gather you don't want to sell
>> one, but what I'm wondering is about fuel mileage with one of those
>> ecu's.
>> It makes it a 110 hp engine, I believe, right ?
>> Does fuel mileage suffer especially with that set up ?
>>
>> Currently I'm running a 2.1 with digifant in an 85 Wolfsburg weekend
>> with
>> auto trans and it's a 16 mpg van on the highway. Not acceptable.
>> So tell me about your euro ecu's and fuel mileage please .
>> Thanks , scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>> Oregon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Bob Donalds
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:06 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>> I do 1.9 engines current price is $2750
>> The 1.9 case has the same type of main bearing as the aircooled bug
>> with a
>> differant larger rear main next to the flywheel. There is 2 problems
>> rebuilding the 1.9 lower end first there are no align bore bearings
>> availible. the second
>> problem is that most most reasssmblers dont bother to measure the
>> case and
>> just toss in a st of std OD bearings.
>> Yes this will last past most warrantees with a nice heavy duty oil
>> pump to
>> keep the oil light out at idle but is this the kind of quaitly your
>> looking
>> for I think not.
>>
>> So your asking why I offer 1.9 engines if there are no bearings and they
>> dont last. I have had made a over size rear main bearing and use the bug
>> align bore bearing for the front three mains. I can also align bore any
>> flat
>> 4 engine block
>> with my Rotler boring bar.
>>
>> My recomendation for your van is upgrade your van to the 2.1 engine it
>> bolts
>> right in and the 1.9 components work.
>> The cost for this would be $2750 for the longblock plus core $600 as
>> this
>> is
>> an outright sale. This also saves you the return freight of $150
>>
>> The bonus with using the digjet injection on the larger 2.1 engine is
>> that
>> the European ECU can be used
>> I do have a few left for sale to my engine customers
>>
>> Bob Donalds
>> http://www.bostonengine.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "shawn clark" <shawnclark77@YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:54 AM
>> Subject: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>>
>>
>>> Does any one know an estimate of how much it would cost to rebuilt
>>> an 84
>>> vanagon ?
>>>
>>> And does anyone know of a place to get it rebuilt in the dallas/ fort
>>> worth area??
>>>
>>> I would greatly appreciate the advice!
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> shawn (new westy owner)
>>>
>>>
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