Date:         Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:18:35 -0800
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: headlights on with ignition on!
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If it is illegal in some states to run parking/running lights only, then
it's not being enforced because GM has been selling a lot of cars and trucks
that just having the front parking lights on (and not the headlights) for
the past several years.  The Penske box van recently rented was that way.
I've seen this on several (but not all) GM models on the highway for the
past several years.
--
Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
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On Dec 14, 2007 5:32 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
wrote:

> All good thoughts. Re the safety or not factor, and fuel consumption.
> In some states it's technically illegal to drive  with just
> parking/running
> lights on, I believe.
> I wouldn't do it for the attention it might attract from cops.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> tom ring
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:13 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  Subject: Re: headlights on with ignition on!
>
> Yes, DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) can be argued to be a bit safer than
> not
> having them.  There is also a lot of evidence that they do nothing or
> almost
> nothing.  They definately use millions of gallons of extra fuel per year
> from
> the .25 to .5 mpg hit.  And makes that much extra CO2.  You are free to
> choose
> your poison, at least in the US.
>
> Here's a place that tells how to shut them down on many vehicles.  I did
> it
> on
> my 96 Jetta.  It turned off the headlights, but not the running lights,
> which
> seems to be a good compromise to me, especially since it's less likely to
> leave
> me with a burned out headlight at night, which is most definitely a safety
> hazard.
>
> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
>
> The only VW van mentioned is 2000-2002 Eurovan.
>
> tom
> K0TAR
>