Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:35:02 -0500
Reply-To: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
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Please
there is no fuel for the 112 HP pistons that's almost 10 to 1. The gain in
HP per point of compression is 4% If you have the octane and you don't. I
have a used set of 10 to 1 piston on the shelf they look like they have been
hit with a shot gun blast of bird shot.
knock knock who's there
There are much better ways to make more power than boosting compression.
Minor porting properly done valve job checking cylinders bores for taper and
out of round and correcting that plus attention to tuning will give you more
than 4%
The loss of power with too much compression and detonation is a much larger
% as Lucas at go westy will tell you,
He has been dropping his compression ratios as time goes by on all his big
motors
http://www.misterfixit.com/deton.htm a primer on this subject
I am willing to sell one or two ECUs with out an engine purchase
Mileage is always about MPH the ECUs is about power so 16 MPG is low but how
fast are you going
and how important is the power
Bob Donalds
Boston Engine
----- Original Message -----
From: "VW Doka" <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
> No idea on fuel mileage, but you'll have to run premium gas if you're
> running the 112hp pistons.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Daniel - Shazam [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:54 PM
> To: 'VW Doka'
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
>
> Very good, thanks for mentioning that.
> Any thoughts or experience on my fuel mileage question ?
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> VW Doka
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:35 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
> You don't get the 112hp with just the Euro ECU, you still need the 112hp
> piston & cylinder set.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Scott Daniel - Shazam
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:21 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
>
> Hey Bob,
> All good stuff. You sound like Da Man all right.
> I have one westy running with a 2.1 engine but the 1.9 fuel system, and it
> does seem to go quite well. ( it's for sale btw ) So my interest in that
> configuration is high right now.
> On those euro ECU's ....................I gather you don't want to sell
> one, but what I'm wondering is about fuel mileage with one of those ecu's.
> It makes it a 110 hp engine, I believe, right ?
> Does fuel mileage suffer especially with that set up ?
>
> Currently I'm running a 2.1 with digifant in an 85 Wolfsburg weekend with
> auto trans and it's a 16 mpg van on the highway. Not acceptable.
> So tell me about your euro ecu's and fuel mileage please .
> Thanks , scott
> www.turbovans.com
> Oregon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Bob Donalds
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:06 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
> I do 1.9 engines current price is $2750
> The 1.9 case has the same type of main bearing as the aircooled bug with a
> differant larger rear main next to the flywheel. There is 2 problems
> rebuilding the 1.9 lower end first there are no align bore bearings
> availible. the second
> problem is that most most reasssmblers dont bother to measure the case and
> just toss in a st of std OD bearings.
> Yes this will last past most warrantees with a nice heavy duty oil pump to
> keep the oil light out at idle but is this the kind of quaitly your
> looking
> for I think not.
>
> So your asking why I offer 1.9 engines if there are no bearings and they
> dont last. I have had made a over size rear main bearing and use the bug
> align bore bearing for the front three mains. I can also align bore any
> flat
> 4 engine block
> with my Rotler boring bar.
>
> My recomendation for your van is upgrade your van to the 2.1 engine it
> bolts
> right in and the 1.9 components work.
> The cost for this would be $2750 for the longblock plus core $600 as this
> is
> an outright sale. This also saves you the return freight of $150
>
> The bonus with using the digjet injection on the larger 2.1 engine is that
> the European ECU can be used
> I do have a few left for sale to my engine customers
>
> Bob Donalds
> http://www.bostonengine.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shawn clark" <shawnclark77@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:54 AM
> Subject: How Much to Rebuild 84 Engine???
>
>
>> Does any one know an estimate of how much it would cost to rebuilt an 84
>> vanagon ?
>>
>> And does anyone know of a place to get it rebuilt in the dallas/ fort
>> worth area??
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate the advice!
>>
>> thanks,
>> shawn (new westy owner)
>>
>>
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