Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:59:56 -0500
Reply-To: robert feller <syncro.carboncow@GMAIL.COM>
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From: robert feller <syncro.carboncow@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: lost brake line...
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Are you referencing the flex line that may lose it's life in the battle?
Thanks for the measurements, I guess it is very short and the T should be
very close. Is it more accessible from straight underneath or under the
spare?
On Dec 25, 2007 12:58 AM, ***************** <vw4x4@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> It is a very tight area. I've done a few of these. Your easiest way is
> to remove
> the TEE from the frame . It is held in place with a screw, that is as
> rusty as the brake
> lines. From this point you can get Vise grips around both nuts and the
> tee. Try
> not to break the other rusted line. Unfortunately most of them will break
> anyway.
>
>
>
> robert feller wrote:
>
> ouch, just took a look and that is a horribly tight knuckle buster area
> inside the wheel well...I'm a bit scared now for sure for removal! I'm
> assuming I'd have to pull the spare tire but looking again that will not
> help with the ridged line meets the flex line at the bracket. For those who
> are curious here is an image or two of the offending rusted line and leak
> location, you can see the fresh brake fluid marks everywhere.
>
> Camera phone images,
> http://carboncow.net/php/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album177
>
> Shawn
>
> On Dec 25, 2007 12:29 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok, hope it works out smoothly !
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* robert feller [mailto:syncro.carboncow@gmail.com <syncro.carboncow@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2007 9:25 PM
> *To:* Scott Daniel - Shazam
> *Subject:* Re: lost brake line...
>
>
>
> Scott,
>
> I can see the squirt mark and drip on the inside wheel wheel at a point of
> disturbing corossion. I'll take photo in the AM to confirm but I see more
> then 4" of ridge line (I believe) from where it attaches on the wheel well
> to what I think is the junction to the flex line.
>
> I'll most likly try to remove the offending line on x-mas and patiently
> await the opening of the FLAPs on Wed!
>
> Shawn
>
> On Dec 25, 2007 12:16 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> wrote:
>
> All right, all right.
> You owe me now dude.
> I jacked up an 86 Syncro Westy ( with subaru 2.2 engine conversion I did,
> and it's for sale btw ) and that line goes in a curve over the frame rail
> to
> a junction right on the inside of the frame, and the line is about 4
> inches
> long.
> Your leak could be anywhere in the front system though. how come your so
> sure it's left front ? fluid coming out in that area that you can see I
> would imagine.
> But if it's that line, it's not gonna be much fun at all.
> I'd drop the spare tire carrier thing out of there, maybe remove the 02
> counter box if you have one .....it's kinda jammed up in there, but the
> first line from the LF brake hose to the junction just inboard of there
> looks to be about 4 inches long, and curved. If you reach over the frame
> rail there you can feel the T junction.
>
> Scottwww.turbovans.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf Of
> robert feller
>
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 8:48 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: lost brake line...
>
> Anyone stab a guess to what length I need on front left syncro? Seems to
> be
> a conflict here with the availability of the metric bubble flare on FLAPS
> in
> all sizes...
>
> If someone could guess some sizes I can do some reseach on many FLAPs
> sites.
>
> Additionally, do we recommend the stainless flex lines be replaced all
> around for the rubber ones?
>
> On Dec 24, 2007 11:34 PM, Karl Mullendore <groups@westyventures.com> <groups@westyventures.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> OK, so bubble flare is what I've been referring to (incorrectly?) as
> double. And yes, bubble flare brake lines are everywhere in automotive
> stores.
>
> The Vanagon system splits front/rear, not diagonal. So you basically
> have rear brakes only at this point. :-)
>
> robert feller wrote:
>
>
> Is the junction I'm looking for simply a split valve or is this a
>
>
> regular
>
>
> assembly too? Anything tricky about it?
>
> Are vanagon diagnal systems or forward/back? I'm curious to what
>
>
> brakes
>
>
> are
>
>
> working with my front left "offline".
>
>
> --
> Shawn Feller
> Ohiowww.carboncow.com
>
>
>
>
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> Shawn Feller
> Ohiowww.carboncow.com
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> Shawn Feller
> Ohiowww.carboncow.com
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