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Date:         Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:00:25 -0600
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: [WetWesties] LVC Should Have Been Posted Friday
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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The recent mandate by congress - which Bush signed into law - which requires auto makers to increase mileage achieved by vehicles on the road - is what is driving the laughter behind the mandate. Here you have a political body mandating a goal that may simply not be achievable because to get there may very well require the bending of the laws of physics. In other words , one cannot get more BTU's from a pound of gasoline than there is in a pound of gasoline, no matter how many mandates Congress passes out to the contrary. It is that sort of thing where many of us see a conflict between science and the mandates of the politico's.

The Public is feeling the pinch of the high gas prices, so pressure is put on Congress, Congress feels the heat and mandates increased gas mileage from the Auto manufacturers, the Auto makers feel the heat, and put the pressure on the Engineers, and the engineers put the heat under the Techs, and the Techs jump on their Lab Assistants, and the Lab Assistants turn and look at the clerks writing all this stuff up, when the secretary walks in an says "I'm typing all this data up for you guys and reading it and it's pure crap! How are you guys going to get more BTU's from a pound of gasoline than there is IN a pound of gasoline? Nuclear Fusion, maybe?"

So there it is. The real issue has been met. Congress gets to say it has done something, and the buck gets passed. How much better can it get than that?

John Rodgers 88 GL Driver

Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote: > Could someone be specific? What specifically did congress say regarding > revising the laws of physics. I track what goes on, or what they tell the > public pretty much, and haven't seen anything I could construe as such. > Specific words please. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > John Rodgers > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:56 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: [WetWesties] LVC Should Have Been Posted Friday > > Yeh! > > I am all for vehicle manufacturers being required to produce the very > best that they can for the public, ie, better mileage vehicles, > > BUT, > > I find it really strange that a political body thinks it can simply > mandate events that will eventually slam technology into the solid wall > of the limitations imposed by physics. Makes no sense.. > > But then again, politics makes no sense. > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > > Mike Collum wrote: > >> I would think it's the part about them scheduling to revise the laws of >> thermo dynamics that is significant. ;) >> >> Mike >> >> >> Courtney Hook wrote: >> >>> It's about time. I guess all the back door payola from the big oil >>> companies was starting to dry up now that the Japanese and Asians >>> have a huge part of the market and the oil companies can't bribe >>> foreign countries as easily. :-) >>> Courtney >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Scott Daniel - Shazam >>> To: 'Loren Busch' >>> Cc: 'Wetwesties' ; 'Vanagon' >>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:46 PM >>> Subject: RE: [WetWesties] LVC Should Have Been Posted Friday >>> >>> >>> Well of course they're going to brag if they have any excuse. >>> >>> They are just trying to cover up that they're embarrassed they >>> didn't do >>> something sooner. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wetwesties@yahoogroups.com >>> [mailto:wetwesties@yahoogroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Loren Busch >>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:14 PM >>> To: Wetwesties; Vanagon >>> Subject: [WetWesties] LVC Should Have Been Posted Friday >>> >>> Congress brags that it has raised the requirements for gasoline >>> efficiency. >>> Also announced that hearings have been scheduled to revise the >>> other laws of >>> Thermo Dynamics. >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic >>> Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Members | Calendar >>> >>> To leave us: wetwesties-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> For technical resources, goto: http://wetwesties.org/links.htm >>> >>> Please conserve bandwidth and clip quoted material in your posts. >>> Include only the information that is relevent to your response. >>> >>> >>> >>> Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) >>> Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch >>> format to Traditional >>> Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent >>> Activity >>> a.. 3New Members >>> b.. 3New Photos >>> Visit Your Group >>> Health Zone >>> Look your best! >>> >>> Groups to help you >>> >>> look & feel great. >>> >>> Yahoo! Finance >>> It's Now Personal >>> >>> Guides, news, >>> >>> advice & more. >>> >>> Parenting Zone >>> on Yahoo! Groups >>> >>> Your one stop for >>> >>> parenting groups. >>> . >>> __,_._,___ >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1193 - Release Date: >>> 22/12/2007 2:02 PM >>> >>> >> > > >


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