Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:56:58 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Injector Ordeal-OVER!!!!
In-Reply-To: <4776AB06.2000202@westyventures.com>
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I have a diesel westy here with 98 Imprezza 2.2 subaru engine in it.
When I picked up the car the Throttle Position Switch had just been replaced
:
240ish for the TPS and 500 ( ! ) smackers for labor - 800 something dollars.
After I got it home and really got into it, I found a simple wire splice
pulled apart near the ecu for one of the 3 TPS wires. Do you suppose that
was the real problem all along ? likely it was.
It's EASY to do good work in a world of mostly in a hurry, throw parts at
it shops and dealers. Things even go *downhill* changing parts sometimes
!
And it doesn't matter what you pay either. Some shops are north of 80 and
hour now, and that is zero guarantee you'll get good work. It's a joke
really. Might right a book about it someday, cause most of the time in
automotive repair and service work, you really don't get good work or a lot
of real 'service."
Also the 'employee' system in general. There is no way you can get the
results you can get by dealing with just One Guy, who hears the real
symptoms, and who is going to be directly responsible to the customer for
the result.
With at least a service writer and a cashier between you and the actual
technician.............lots gets lost, and you pay way more.
And having employees to fix cars for you .................ack !
............don't even get me started on that one ! That's a real
nightmare.
Typical story - Volvo not running quite right. Shop says 'we have to tune
it up first for 250 dollars before we can diagnose it.' Just
drives me nuts because that is so NOT really serving people.
But it pays well ! ............and that's how shops make money,
real money, they sell jobs like 'you need all new hoses ma'mn, and it's 800
dollars." ( and it's not even really needed, but they can 'justify' it, so
they sell it. ) Then they slap on the hoses and fill the cooling system, and
they make about 500 dollars in about 3 and a half hours. Hey, I should do
more of that kind of work !!
Scott
www.turbovans.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Karl Mullendore
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:16 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Injector Ordeal-OVER!!!!
I used to get a lot of work that folks pulled away from dealers and
other shops, seems they all wanted to replaced lots of expensive parts
one after the other (all non-refundable of course) until the problem was
fixed. In almost every case it would turn out to be something simple and
basic that 'diagnostic computers' or 'factory trained' techs had no
clue. Saved these folks thousands of dollars. I always recommend testing
the basics first-- spark, fuel, vacuum hoses, compression? More often
you'll find the problem early on, the silliest little things.
Great you found this one without too much expense, a learned some good
lessons along the way.
Karl
>> -----Original Message-----
This morning I
>> remembered that about a month ago I had pulled the
>> distributor. But, I had
>> driven the van quite a bit since then. What the
>> hell, worth taking a look
>> at. It looks as though I did not tighten the clamp
>> enough around the
>> distributor-it had riden up enough that it was not
>> turning! Pushed it down,
>> tightened the clamp-van fired right
>> up.
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