Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:07:02 -0800
Reply-To: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Water pump?
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I've replaced 100's of water pumps and the Vanagon water pump is a piece of
cake when compared to many of them. At least the water-boxer doesn't
require the removal of the timing belt in order to get to the water pump,
like many newer vehicles.
Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Scott Daniel - Shazam
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:05 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Water pump?
Re
" It would appear
> >>> that some might be trying to discourage others from doing their
> >>> own water pump replacements."
That's funny, such never occurred to me.
I sure encourage everyone to be very familiar, handy, and skilled at
maintaining and repairing their vanagon, most definitely.
What I *really* wish for tho, is on a few vanagon jobs .........and about
THE worst one I can think of is adjusting the clutch master cylinder push
rod or replacing the pedal assembly ....
And the water pumps also fall under this..........what I wish for is to find
the engineers that designed it that way and force them to change those parts
over and over until their fingers are bloody and they swear to never design
things that stupidly again..
Just to brag........I pride myself in building things so they are easy to
work on, as in engine conversions. I finished off this installation of a
Subaru 2.2 engine into a Syncro Westy ( it's for sale btw ) . Somebody
jammed vw bolts into the subaru engine block .........ack !!....and stripped
the hell out of those threads, which made the engine-adapter-plate junction
weak and flexy and the starter not work well, so I had to pull the engine.
From a running fully done subaru engine conversion that I had built, I
had it completely disconnected and ready to remove except for the bell
housing bolts in 50 minutes of easy work.
If they had put their mind to it waterboxer water pumps could be an hour
job easily, if they cared enough to think about it much in the first place.
I think engineers generally completely miss it in terms of pure
practicality. How hard is it not mount something right in front of
something else anyway ?? not very.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
David Kao
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:31 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Water pump?
When the water pump of my 84 broke I made a decision to take the working
one from my 83.5 to install it on the 84, then wait for a new one to go
back to the 83.5 later. In about 4 hours I dismantled both water pumps
from the two Vanagons and installed one as planned on the 84.
But I rebuilt the 83.5 engine a few months earlier so I was already
mechanically conditioned to deal with the water pump. I can agree that it
is not trivial at all.
David
> >>> I keep watching this thread with shaking head. It would appear that
> >>> some might be trying to discourage others from doing their own water
> >>> pump replacements.
> >>>
> >>> The water pump went out, while traveling, in my '84 air conditioned 7
> >>> passenger and I changed the pump in a NAPA parking lot in New
> >>> Jersey. I
> >>> started just after 8 am, when they opened, and was back on the freeway
> >>> before noon. Of course, I do carry a fairly complete tool box.
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