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Date:         Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:49:48 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Announcement: the BZ Shelf
Comments: To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <71d9cdf90801071341l1937cfbeg77f0805ec16d39b4@mail.gmail.com>
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That's the upstairs-ingress-and-egress area. Page 47.33 of Bentley's. Of the two only people on the planet with BZ Shelves, Tom's the only one who uses the upstairs-ingress-and-egress area, so we'll have to wait for him to 'splain. -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano KG6RCR

On 1/7/2008 1:41 PM Jake de Villiers wrote:

> Nope, 190. > > You know, the gap that lets you get upstairs. What do you prefer to call > it? I'd never needed a name for it before I asked that question. > > Does the new improved BZ Shelf make it hard to get upstairs? > > On Jan 7, 2008 1:27 PM, Tom Buese <tombuese@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On Jan 7, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jake de Villiers wrote: >> >>> Way to go guys! Nice job with the design Tom and thanks for the Wiki >>> Rocky. >> Thanks >>> Any trouble getting in and out of the upper berth with the shelf >>> there? >> No, but If you weigh over 500 lbs. you might have a problem, but then >> the bed probably won't hold you anyway? >>> I >>> can't really see how much of the access slot the BZ covers. >> Not sure what you mean? >> >> Tom BZ-how big is your access slot? >>> Thanks again, Jake >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2008 5:40 PM, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Back in August or so Mrs Squirrel and I became frustrated with >>>> having to >>>> deal with boxes of groceries and stuff which were constantly >>>> underfoot >>>> when camping in places where the local critters were eying our >>>> comestibles >>>> with considerable interest. I wondered whether it might be >>>> possible to >>>> hang a shelf in the otherwise unused overhead space at the front >>>> of the >>>> raised poptop and posted a proposal involving chains and skyhooks and >>>> stuff, an idea that was doomed to never work. >>>> >>>> Several folks suggested better ways to go about it, but nothing >>>> seemed >>>> very easy to me. Then Tom Buese, who was apparently looking for an >>>> excuse >>>> to avoid doing real work, popped up with a design for a shelf >>>> which mounts >>>> easily on the poptop's crossarm with a couple of hardware store U- >>>> bolts, >>>> holds a surprising amount of stuff when deployed, and folds flat >>>> against >>>> the roof when the top is down. He put together a prototype and >>>> emailed a >>>> dimensioned drawing of his idea to me. I banged a version together >>>> in a >>>> couple of hours without hardly any significant loss of blood and >>>> mounted >>>> it up. After a test on a short camping trip, it has become a >>>> permanent >>>> addition to our Westy. Best thing I've ever done -- besides >>>> marrying Mrs >>>> Squirrel, I'd say. >>>> >>>> After the Vanagon Wiki went "live" this year I suggested to Tom >>>> that we >>>> could post a how-to article about his "BZ Shelf" but it took him a >>>> bit of >>>> time to take the pictures and refine the drawing. But finally, after >>>> considerable nagging on my part, I got him to post the stuff to me >>>> so I >>>> could write the article. >>>> >>>> If you're like me, able to use a reciprocating saw without hardly >>>> ever >>>> cutting off a finger, own a Westy, and find yourself sometime >>>> wishing you >>>> had a darn place to put pots and pans and coolers and stuff that >>>> seem to >>>> crowd your floor when camping, do yourself a favor and build a BZ >>>> Shelf. I >>>> reckon you'll be glad you did. >>>> >>>> So here it is, with Tom's permission: photos and plans at >>>> http://vanagonwiki.net/index.php/Buese_Shelf >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott >>>> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus >>>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") >>>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano >>>> KG6RCR >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jake >>> 1984 Vanagon GL >>> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >>> Crescent Beach, BC >>> www.crescentbeachguitar.com >>> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/ >> > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > Crescent Beach, BC > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/


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