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Date:         Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:16:22 -0500
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Diesel vs Gas Vanagons
Comments: To: Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu>
In-Reply-To:  <91809EDF-D73A-44BD-9CBF-C7192472C195@cs.indiana.edu>
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On 1/12/08, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: > My sensibilities are that tossing a Zetec after 100K miles should not > be necessary. However if you really can get a long block with under > 10K miles for the prices Jim was talking about then you really have > to question the financial wisdom of ever doing a major repair. We > seem to have arrived at the disposable engine.

You are right, it isn't necessary. But if you also fail to consider the benefits of doing so, you're missing out on a whole new realm of potential, and indeed could be wasting time, effort, and cash. While the term "disposable" is likely abhorrent to most in vanagonland, the fact is, that the engine is still recycled... it isn't "thrown away" like a coffee cup, or piece of cheap furniture. While there is something to be said of maintaining those things that are truly valuable and irreplaceable in life, if the cost of doing so comes at the expense of your actual time alive, and the resources with which you live, then the argument begins to fade. moreover if the threshold at which something becomes replaceable shifts, you *must* reevaluate your position or risk losing the validity of the original decision.

In which case are you more likely to succeed with your van? In one where you can be self sufficient? Or in one in which you depend on others? Can you remove and replace an engine? Yes, guys that have never done more than an oil change can be educated in short order to do this, handle a timing belt? Less so, depends on the complexity of the implementation. Do a head gasket? Yes, but perhaps a total novice shouldn't be touching it... rebuild the whole engine? Certainly not in the vast majority of cases. There are threads on boards all over the web littered with failures of this type. Keeping the risk exposure down, leaving the riskiest most involved tasks to others unless you plan to dedicate enough time, energy,and competence to properly conduct yourself are all things that people already do when it comes to cars.. the mere discussion of engine conversions on vanagons should not warrant a shift from this common sense. The real issue is, this has not existed as an actual possibility until now... so it's new, and it draws immediate skepticism. Totally understandable, but it's going to take a lot more than skepticism to stop the progression, realization, and acceptance of this approach.

Jim Akiba


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