Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:37:55 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: bus?
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My my, you like to argue - but let's call it 'lively debate' which I love.
As a life long US citizen and aware of vw's here for some 40 years or
so.............I'm pretty sure it's officially called the Bus.....like on
the cover of the Owner's Manual. I have various vw books I could look at,
but I do believe in the US it's an official model name. '78 Bus' ....for
example. Or 1978 VW Bus.
I also don't claim to be that knowledgbile about every name and nuance.
How to fix them.....that I excel in.
Yes, I though how most rear engine school buses these days are a big long
box.
Are you familiar with Ken Keesy ( sp ? ) and the Merry Pranksters and their
bus ...'Further' I think the buses name is. a 49 or even 39 International
harvester bus. Famous in hippy and LSD lore, like an icon of the movement.
If there was one vehicle to name as an icon of that era in the US.......it
would be that bus. Front engine, school bus thing. There's some movement
to restore it. It's in the western US somewhere I think, forget right now.
Oh, right, well the VW Bus would also be an icon of the hippy ear, for sure
!
In Japan they call what we call a Eurovan and Vanagon. How odd. Ever hear
of a Honda Civic Wagovan ? ....yup, Honda's combination of 'van' and
'wagon.'
They sure didn't have vanagons or even vw's in japan when I lived there,
except military personnel.
I'm sorry, I was being US-centric. Though I was responding to people on the
list that are US based.
They don't call them Vanagons in The Fatherland do they ???
T3's I believe.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Grebneff
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:49 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: bus?
>Buses, as in school buses are roundier, like Bay Buses are, Vanagons are
>boxy.
I see some pretty boxy buses around... all of the modern ones.
>Chassis and development wise....................vanagons are a whole fresh
>sheet of paper, where 'Buses' are a continuation of one concept from the
>beginning of 'VW Bus'. Except for the rear engine location being the
>same, Vanagons are as different from VW Buses as Eurovans are different
from
>Vanagons, or close to.
The "Eurovan" was only called that in North America... in Japan IT
was the Vanagon.
>Thirdly. Buses were named and called 'VW Bus'
That's not an official name, just a nickname.
>and vanagons are named and
>called vanagons.
Not in most places...
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
, Opinions stated are mine, not those of Otago University
"There is water at the bottom of the ocean" - Talking Heads
