Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:19:36 -0800
Reply-To: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Water pump?
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dang 100's i would be in AA man.. lol
Joe
-----Original Message-----
>From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Jan 9, 2008 1:07 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Water pump?
>
>I've replaced 100's of water pumps and the Vanagon water pump is a piece of
>cake when compared to many of them. At least the water-boxer doesn't
>require the removal of the timing belt in order to get to the water pump,
>like many newer vehicles.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>Of Scott Daniel - Shazam
>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:05 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Water pump?
>
>
>Re
>" It would appear
>> >>> that some might be trying to discourage others from doing their
>> >>> own water pump replacements."
>
>That's funny, such never occurred to me.
>I sure encourage everyone to be very familiar, handy, and skilled at
>maintaining and repairing their vanagon, most definitely.
>
>What I *really* wish for tho, is on a few vanagon jobs .........and about
>THE worst one I can think of is adjusting the clutch master cylinder push
>rod or replacing the pedal assembly ....
>And the water pumps also fall under this..........what I wish for is to find
>the engineers that designed it that way and force them to change those parts
>over and over until their fingers are bloody and they swear to never design
>things that stupidly again..
>
>Just to brag........I pride myself in building things so they are easy to
>work on, as in engine conversions. I finished off this installation of a
>Subaru 2.2 engine into a Syncro Westy ( it's for sale btw ) . Somebody
>jammed vw bolts into the subaru engine block .........ack !!....and stripped
>the hell out of those threads, which made the engine-adapter-plate junction
>weak and flexy and the starter not work well, so I had to pull the engine.
> From a running fully done subaru engine conversion that I had built, I
>had it completely disconnected and ready to remove except for the bell
>housing bolts in 50 minutes of easy work.
> If they had put their mind to it waterboxer water pumps could be an hour
>job easily, if they cared enough to think about it much in the first place.
>I think engineers generally completely miss it in terms of pure
>practicality. How hard is it not mount something right in front of
>something else anyway ?? not very.
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>David Kao
>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:31 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Water pump?
>
>When the water pump of my 84 broke I made a decision to take the working
>one from my 83.5 to install it on the 84, then wait for a new one to go
>back to the 83.5 later. In about 4 hours I dismantled both water pumps
>from the two Vanagons and installed one as planned on the 84.
>
>But I rebuilt the 83.5 engine a few months earlier so I was already
>mechanically conditioned to deal with the water pump. I can agree that it
>is not trivial at all.
>
>David
>
>
>> >>> I keep watching this thread with shaking head. It would appear that
>> >>> some might be trying to discourage others from doing their own water
>> >>> pump replacements.
>> >>>
>> >>> The water pump went out, while traveling, in my '84 air conditioned 7
>> >>> passenger and I changed the pump in a NAPA parking lot in New
>> >>> Jersey. I
>> >>> started just after 8 am, when they opened, and was back on the freeway
>> >>> before noon. Of course, I do carry a fairly complete tool box.
>
>
>
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