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Date:         Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:39:24 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ...its alright ...if you wanna get down .... propane ...
              (apologies to eric c.)
Comments: To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <ccd73a10801142255w2fb1876jb5d228b948acd6cb@mail.gmail.com>
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A question, one which is not meant to stir any kind of pot, but I've never understood the propane leak detector idea for a Westy. I can smell even tiny leaks of propane, which is the whole point of the added oderant. So, unless someone has nosomia, like my wife (which means that my silent ones go undetected, a blessing in a marriage), a propane detector, like a fart detector, is pretty unneeded, isn't it? -- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano KG6RCR

On 1/14/2008 10:55 PM Roger Whittaker wrote:

> http://www.nextag.com/propane-gas-detector/search-html > > attention wet & westie & vanagon... > propane is not CO2 ... > getting a CO2 alarm to warn of propane leaks is like using rubber doll in > place of a human ... > (no personal experience on that rubber doll bit--simply surmising) > actually any CO2 alarms i have seen available at regular home stores have > printed on the side of the package > NOT FOR RV OR TRAILER ... > > but regarding sniffing out gas presence i do ave a small amount of > experience ... > get a propane tuned sniffer capable of warning of the presence of propane > install it correctly ... in the recommended spot ... > *NOT* the place you think it should go ... > look in RV or marine stores for this item ... > > be safe ..good luck > > > On Jan 14, 2008 8:58 PM, Jason Griffith <xjs383@tds.net> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Weirdest thing just happened. Just came home from work in the >> other-brand German sedan, drove into the garage, shut it down, got out >> and I hear this beeping. Traced it back out of the garage, into my >> Westy (locked, parked since this morning when I moved it 20 feet out of >> the way of the sedan, prior to that also parked all weekend - back to >> Friday), and lo and behold it's not a battery issue. >> >> It's the First Alert Carbon Monoxide detector going off in the cabinet >> under the sink. No prevalent smell of propane (I just got OUT asap). >> The red LED on the detector for 'ALARM: MOVE TO FRESH AIR' was blinking >> and the 'malfunction and 'battery' LED's were not. Did some >> investigating and found that there are a lot of false positives with the >> First Alert system. Also found that they will not detect propane, only >> CO (according to a number of online reports). >> >> Curious what your thoughts are on items I should check, etc. I'm >> currently headed back out to check the tank connections, regulator >> reading, etc. I'm also going to throw the sensor back in the same place >> it previously was and see if it repeats the alarm condition. >> >> I will reiterate, there are a lot of 'false positive' and bad reviews of >> the First Alert online by Fire Department officials who have seen them >> false alarm with higher end sensors showing negligible traces of CO in >> the atmosphere of homes, etc. I did talk to Home Depot where i bought >> the sensor and finally the return department agreed that I could return >> it for store credit. 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