Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:25:44 -0800
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: [WetWesties] Best PNW scenic route?
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In southern Oregon the power probably comes from Bonneville dam.
But where 'my particular' power comes from is immaterial
What matters is what humans do that impacts the earth and the ecosystems on
a large scale.
There is a movement now for nuclear power because it's not coal, and it's
not hydro, and it's clean, though there is the potential for serious
contamination if anything goes wrong, and there is always the long term
storage issue.
One of the reasons they have war is to use up depleted plutonium in bullets,
but they don't tell you that.
It helps slightly to slow down overpopulation too. That it also blows off
the arms and legs of our young men and women is an unfortunate side affect.
< in case you don't get it, I think it's appalling that humans are so
violent with each other >
For sure I am very against coal plants, and they are improving the
technology, and there are other ideas, like tidal generators.
( which sound potentially less harmful to me ) .
But, the fish are dwindling. Dams are a major factor. The oceans are
beginning to die in some areas, it's not the dams especially I don't think,
but dams basically harm fish that spawn, badly so. Farmed fished are very
bad news for the ecosystem.
There are some 33 I think dams on the Columbia and Snake Rivers, the largest
drainage in North America btw.
It's not so simple as to say dams are less bad than coal.
All power generating systems have a down side, some less than others.
There's no easy solution it would appear.
and no, there is nothing really beautiful to me about a man made reservoir.
I think it should be a law, that Lake Shasta, for example must be called
Shasta Reservoir.
I know one lake..........in northern California, at end of a 14 mile dirt
road, with a gorgeous volcano view, where you can still camp on the shore,
among the pine trees, of a NATURAL lake, and no power boats either. Camping
on the shore of a natural lake is a fairly rare thing these days. So no, I
don't consider dams and reservoirs actually beautiful. Fascinating, yes.
Seen Lake Powel lately ? Half empty. Whew.
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Subject: Re: [WetWesties] Best PNW scenic route?
No offense Scott but are you getting your electricity from a coal powered
generating plant or from one of those not-so-beautiful dams generating hydro
electric power? Personally, I'll take a dam over a coal powered plant any
day.
Bill :-)
'76 ASI Riviera 'Sonnenblume'
In a message dated 1/18/2008 8:50:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ScottDaniel@turbovans.com writes:
No offense. What is beautiful about dams ? they're destructive , they're
slowly removing them.
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