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Date:         Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:11:34 -0500
Reply-To:     Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: Front and rear seal replacement
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>Good luck on your project, if you do everything right, >Boston Bob has a great video to show the replacement procedures as well

http://www.bostig.com/files/bostonbob&bostig-proper_wbxflywheel_install.wmv

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:44 AM Subject: Re: Front and rear seal replacement

> John, > > I feel your pain!!! My 84 Westy, with a manual and 2.1L replacement motor > had the rear main seal fail last summer following my body restoration. > The > cause was determined to be blast material finding its way into the bell > housing! See photo link. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/77623993@N00/1262992204/ > The hole at the top of the motor where you can see the back of the fly > wheel, is for automatic transmission application, my plug was missing, and > I > failed to cover it properly when I had the body sand blasted. I would > suggest keeping it plugged to avoid any contamination over the 75,000 > miles > of driving on the road. It is amazing how much crud can find its way to > your seal. My mechanic would not have believed this if he hadn't seen > this > with his own eyes. > > This happened just before the Woodward Dream Cruise, but I drove it there > anyway, and let it leak. > > I saw from an earlier post that your van has a manual tranny too. So, it > is > a good plan to change your clutch at the same time, as you will find your > clutch saturated with oil, and likely find that your pressure plate and > flywheel have heat marks - so everything should be resurfaced while you > are > at it. Here is a great link to the step by step procedures. > http://volksweb.relitech.com/clutch.htm > > I had my mechanic friend come by on a Saturday, and if it wasn't for be > getting the wrong size flywheel seal (yes they come in 2 sized 12mm for > automatic and 10mm for manual) BE SURE TO COUNTERSINK, we would have had > the > job done in a snap. Also, the time to take to clutch, flywheel and > pressure > plate to a local clutch resurface place. One other note: the throw out > bearing slipped on us, and I crushed it when we reassembled the thing. We > knew we had a problem when the fly wheel wouldn't turn by hand after > reassembly. After getting the replacement bearing we held it in place > with > a dab of Vaseline and it was fine. > > We also changed the seal in the tranny - took an extra $6 and 15 minutes. > Changed the tranny fluid with Red-line MT GL-4. > > Put the whole thing back together, and it is as dry as a bone now. > > Good luck on your project, if you do everything right, > Boston Bob has a great video to show the replacement procedures as well. > > Keep that whole plugged, even use silicon sealant around the bell housing > (Like OEM for Syncro's), to keep the dust, dirt, crud out of there, and > you > should be set for life! > > Jack R. > 84 Westy Wolfy, with a 2.1L Syncro Motor. > N. of Detroit. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > John Rodgers > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:11 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Front and rear seal replacement > > Gotta replace the front and rear seals on my 2.1 Wasserleaker. I'm not a > happy camper - 85,000 since rebuild. > Anybody got any tips and tricks? > > No Vanagon mechanics in this neck of the woods, so I'm gonna have to > find a mechanic that doesn't mind somebody hanging in the shop and > kibbitzing a bit while the work is going on. I figure a GOOD mechanic - > even though not a VW mechanic, can get the job done with my supervision > (yeah, right!). I take this approach because of some bad mistakes in the > past. > > BTW, it is ironic that Frank Grunthaner just put up a recent post and > mentioned the frequency of his observation of front and rear seal > failure in the 2.1L WBX engine. He attributed this to owner/operator > error, as well as poor maintenance. Oil levels being a culprit. I am > very judicious in the operation of my van, and I'm meticulous about the > maintenance and keeping things up. I just think the seals should have > lasted longer. However, when the engine ws rebuilt, two weeks after I > got it back, I had to replace that flywheel seal. Obviously the tranny > has to be pulled to replace that little seal. What a PITA for so small a > thing. > > Thanks, > > John Rodgers > > 88 G Driver


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