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Date:         Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:28:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Pesky lighters
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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Go to Home Depot (or where-ever you can find BBQ grill parts).

Buy the piezo gas lighter kit to add to your BBQ grill.

Install it in the gas appliance of your choice by drilling a couple of holes.

Voila!

Mike B.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Daniel - Shazam" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Pesky lighters

Butane doesn't work at altitude. Period. Or it barely works. You do need flame to light mantels, but To light a gas stove you only need a spark. There 'were' old fashioned long, strikers................like welders use to light torches......a frication device with the little part that wears that you replace, but with the wheel at the end of a 10 inch stalk, with a handle. I have one with my 1965 trailer. Period authentic for the year. And 40 years old and working just fine.

But that's what you want for the gas stove, a long striker. Frankly, I do not find that there are very reliable, easy to use strikers or lighters. I don' like my finger on the wheel, I like the push button kind, for a lighter. Forget anti-child ones you have to set before trying to light them. I've gotten long lighters at the dollar store for one dollar, but, .....from china ...........just junk. Last a short while, and its such a shame to land fill that stuff.

And............the matches are not what they were 10+ years ago. Good wooden kitchen matches now.. ..they don't light and burn as well as they used to. Environmental laws changed them I think. I think there's a market even for a good lighter. Zippo's just seem messy too. Yeah, no good answer. If there is a really high end fireplace lighter for millionaires, like a well made 30 dollar long lighter or striker, I'd buy one, if it was reliable and long-liffed.

Oh, the best long strikers are piezo.........no friction, no batteries. They will last indefinitely and light a gas stove well until they just mechanically wear out. Those are nice. Scott www.turbovans.com we've come so far from rubbing sticks together, but you'd think they could make a good stove and lantern lighter !!

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of John Meeks Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:22 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Pesky lighters

Re: snooted pokeable lighters

1. Sit on yer Scripto to warm the butane 2. Light yer Scripto with a Zippo 3. poke away. ;-)

jm

On Jan 20, 2008 11:26 AM, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, this barely qualifies as having any Vanagon content whatsoever but > here goes anyway: Mrs Squirrel and I use BBQ/fireplace lighters like the > Scripto Aim N Flame* when camping because the long snoots are useful for > lighting the stove and essential for poking into and lighting mantle-type > oil lanterns. For most of the year they work just fine, but this winter > I've been spending the occasional night up at 7,000 feet, where the piezo > ignitors commonly used on those lighters start not working so good, and > where the below-freezing temps reduce the pressure of the butane or > whatever fuel is in them. In short, they click and they click and no flame > comes out. > > I could use wooden kitchen matches, but they are a bit messy and smell > kinda stinky (he said, fastidiously). > > So I'm curious to know if any of you folk who live in the high places and > cold weathers have anything which works real good and is pokeable (for > them lanterns)? > > ================ > * I find the statement on Scripto's website > (http://www.scriptousa.com/lighters.html) that "Whether appearing on a TV > show or at your local campfire or barbecue, Aim N Flame is instantly > recognizable" to be vaguely troubling. They crave attention? It never > occurred to me that the Aim N Flame might want to be recognized. How much > more about the secret inner emotional world of the Aim N Flame do I not > know about? What if we have to start worrying about the feelings of all > our lighters? > > -- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano > KG6RCR >

-- John Meeks

'91 Multivan, '85 GL bits Northern Michigan KC8ZFN

Vanagon Rescue Squad http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon_Rescue_Squad74.htm


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