Date:         Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:41:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pesky lighters
Comments: To: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com>
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Coleman used to make these --- but it seems they have gone to the butane
ones from their website..........

Cheers,
Doug


On 1/21/08, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This is what I use:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/bike2vcu/Lighter
>
> Not industrial strength, it looks like a household or
> camping item.  I have seen the welding ones mentioned
> in various posts and they might be more readily
> available.  I just happened across this one.
>
> Stephen
>
> --- Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> wrote:
>
> > Butane doesn't work at altitude.
> > Period. Or it barely works.
> > You do need flame to light mantels, but
> > To light a gas stove you only need a spark.
> > There 'were' old fashioned long,
> > strikers................like welders use to
> > light torches......a frication device with the
> > little part that wears that
> > you replace, but with the wheel at the end of a 10
> > inch stalk, with a
> > handle. I have one with my 1965 trailer. Period
> > authentic for the year.  And
> > 40 years old and working just fine.
> >
> > But that's what you want for the gas stove, a long
> > striker.
> > Frankly, I do not find that there are very reliable,
> > easy to use strikers or
> > lighters.
> > I don' like my finger on the wheel, I like the push
> > button kind, for a
> > lighter.
> > Forget anti-child ones you have to set before trying
> > to light them.
> > I've gotten long lighters at the dollar store for
> > one dollar, but, .....from
> > china ...........just junk.
> > Last a  short while, and its such a shame to land
> > fill that stuff.
> >
> > And............the matches are not what they were
> > 10+ years ago. Good wooden
> > kitchen matches now.. ..they don't light and burn as
> > well as they used to.
> > Environmental laws changed them I think.
> > I think there's a market even for a good lighter.
> > Zippo's just seem messy too.
> > Yeah, no good answer.  If there is a really high end
> > fireplace lighter for
> > millionaires, like a well made 30 dollar long
> > lighter or striker, I'd buy
> > one, if it was reliable and long-liffed.
> >
> > Oh, the best long strikers are piezo.........no
> > friction, no batteries. They
> > will last indefinitely and light a gas stove well
> > until they just
> > mechanically wear out.  Those are nice.
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> > we've come so far from rubbing sticks together, but
> > you'd think they could
> > make a good stove and lantern lighter  !!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> > John Meeks
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:22 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Pesky lighters
> >
> > Re: snooted pokeable lighters
> >
> > 1. Sit on yer Scripto to warm the butane
> > 2. Light yer Scripto with a Zippo
> > 3. poke away. ;-)
> >
> > jm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2008 11:26 AM, Michael Elliott
> > <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Okay, this barely qualifies as having any Vanagon
> > content whatsoever but
> > > here goes anyway: Mrs Squirrel and I use
> > BBQ/fireplace lighters like the
> > > Scripto Aim N Flame* when camping because the long
> > snoots are useful for
> > > lighting the stove and essential for poking into
> > and lighting mantle-type
> > > oil lanterns. For most of the year they work just
> > fine, but this winter
> > > I've been spending the occasional night up at
> > 7,000 feet, where the piezo
> > > ignitors commonly used on those lighters start not
> > working so good, and
> > > where the below-freezing temps reduce the pressure
> > of the butane or
> > > whatever fuel is in them. In short, they click and
> > they click and no flame
> > > comes out.
> > >
> > > I could use wooden kitchen matches, but they are a
> > bit messy and smell
> > > kinda stinky (he said, fastidiously).
> > >
> > > So I'm curious to know if any of you folk who live
> > in the high places and
> > > cold weathers have anything which works real good
> > and is pokeable (for
> > > them lanterns)?
> > >
> > > ================
> > > * I find the statement on Scripto's website
> > > (http://www.scriptousa.com/lighters.html) that
> > "Whether appearing on a TV
> > > show or at your local campfire or barbecue, Aim N
> > Flame is instantly
> > > recognizable" to be vaguely troubling. They crave
> > attention? It never
> > > occurred to me that the Aim N Flame might want to
> > be recognized. How much
> > > more about the secret inner emotional world of the
> > Aim N Flame do I not
> > > know about? What if we have to start worrying
> > about the feelings of all
> > > our lighters?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> > > 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> > > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical
> > Banana")
> > > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San
> > Juan Capistrano
> > > KG6RCR
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Meeks
> >
> > '91 Multivan, '85 GL bits
> > Northern Michigan
> > KC8ZFN
> >
> > Vanagon Rescue Squad
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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