Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:10:50 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Pesky lighters
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Butane doesn't work at altitude.
Period. Or it barely works.
You do need flame to light mantels, but
To light a gas stove you only need a spark.
There 'were' old fashioned long, strikers................like welders use to
light torches......a frication device with the little part that wears that
you replace, but with the wheel at the end of a 10 inch stalk, with a
handle. I have one with my 1965 trailer. Period authentic for the year. And
40 years old and working just fine.
But that's what you want for the gas stove, a long striker.
Frankly, I do not find that there are very reliable, easy to use strikers or
lighters.
I don' like my finger on the wheel, I like the push button kind, for a
lighter.
Forget anti-child ones you have to set before trying to light them.
I've gotten long lighters at the dollar store for one dollar, but, .....from
china ...........just junk.
Last a short while, and its such a shame to land fill that stuff.
And............the matches are not what they were 10+ years ago. Good wooden
kitchen matches now.. ..they don't light and burn as well as they used to.
Environmental laws changed them I think.
I think there's a market even for a good lighter.
Zippo's just seem messy too.
Yeah, no good answer. If there is a really high end fireplace lighter for
millionaires, like a well made 30 dollar long lighter or striker, I'd buy
one, if it was reliable and long-liffed.
Oh, the best long strikers are piezo.........no friction, no batteries. They
will last indefinitely and light a gas stove well until they just
mechanically wear out. Those are nice.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
we've come so far from rubbing sticks together, but you'd think they could
make a good stove and lantern lighter !!
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
John Meeks
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:22 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Pesky lighters
Re: snooted pokeable lighters
1. Sit on yer Scripto to warm the butane
2. Light yer Scripto with a Zippo
3. poke away. ;-)
jm
On Jan 20, 2008 11:26 AM, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, this barely qualifies as having any Vanagon content whatsoever but
> here goes anyway: Mrs Squirrel and I use BBQ/fireplace lighters like the
> Scripto Aim N Flame* when camping because the long snoots are useful for
> lighting the stove and essential for poking into and lighting mantle-type
> oil lanterns. For most of the year they work just fine, but this winter
> I've been spending the occasional night up at 7,000 feet, where the piezo
> ignitors commonly used on those lighters start not working so good, and
> where the below-freezing temps reduce the pressure of the butane or
> whatever fuel is in them. In short, they click and they click and no flame
> comes out.
>
> I could use wooden kitchen matches, but they are a bit messy and smell
> kinda stinky (he said, fastidiously).
>
> So I'm curious to know if any of you folk who live in the high places and
> cold weathers have anything which works real good and is pokeable (for
> them lanterns)?
>
> ================
> * I find the statement on Scripto's website
> (http://www.scriptousa.com/lighters.html) that "Whether appearing on a TV
> show or at your local campfire or barbecue, Aim N Flame is instantly
> recognizable" to be vaguely troubling. They crave attention? It never
> occurred to me that the Aim N Flame might want to be recognized. How much
> more about the secret inner emotional world of the Aim N Flame do I not
> know about? What if we have to start worrying about the feelings of all
> our lighters?
>
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
--
John Meeks
'91 Multivan, '85 GL bits
Northern Michigan
KC8ZFN
Vanagon Rescue Squad
http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon_Rescue_Squad74.htm
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