Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:22:21 -0800
Reply-To: Daniel Neu <dan.neu@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From: Daniel Neu <dan.neu@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Clutch Chatter
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Thanks David,
I had the cylinder head thing happen too. I ended up buying a long-block 2.1L from a Southern California junkyard. I never tried to get anything from VWoA. Maybe I should.
Anyway, I read the only other post on this topic and could see that maybe I wasn't clear on the problem. I noticed that color on the area between the spindle and the friction material. Not at the edge of the disk. It looks like it has been flexing with each spin of the engine.
The only other thought I had is that maybe I didn't grease the transmission input shaft well enough. I know that the Bentley manual says to grease that so the clutch disk doesn't get hung-up on the shaft. But if that is it, then Stevens Creek VW also didn't grease it well enough when they tried to fix the problem under warranty.
I'm still stumped,
~Dan
David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
You should talk to VW. My 83.5 Westy had the cylinder head syndrome when it
was at 30k+ miles. The previous owner had a dealer worked on it with
no success. But he kept a receipt for the repair which had the exact
description of the syndrome. I eventually talked to VWoA and asked for a
warranty repair which was to replace the heads. VWoA initially declined
my request. So I called Better Business Bureau in Oakland California. I
provided the copy of the receipt, filled some forms, and described the
cylinder head syndrome that occurred to many early 1.9 WBX engines. About
two weeks later BBB notified me that VWoA agreed to pay 80% of the bill
to have my engine rebuilt. At the time the Westy was 10 years old and had
about 70k+ miles. The dealer put a pair of new heads (VW heads) in it.
David
--- Dan Neu wrote:
> The VW Camper is doing to be getting some more use soon. I've been trying to
> get it into tip-top shape and one of the things on the list is to stop the
> clutch chatter that has plagued the car since new. The last 2 times I took
> it apart, I found that the clutch webbing (the area between the spindle and
> the friction material) showed temper colors. Someone suggested that I change
> the angle that the transmission meets the engine. I guess what he thought is
> that the clutch is constantly flexing because the transmission input shaft
> is not at exact right angle to it. I tried putting washers on just the
> bottom bolts to change the angle. Guess what? It worked. However, then I had
> another problem. I couldn't shift the car when the car was standing still.
> My thought was that the input shaft, where it goes into the flywheel gland
> nut, was binding and always had some torque on it. Sure enough, when I took
> out the washers, I could get the car into gear again. But now that clutch
> chatter is back.
>
>
>
> I don't know what to do short of getting another transmission. Maybe if I
> can prove that this has happened since new, I can get VW to do it for me? I
> got all the invoices from the clutch repairs under warrantee and otherwise.
> I've owned the car since it was new. Bought it at Stevens Creek VW in 1985.
>
>
>
> Is there anything else you can think of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ~Dan
>
> P.S. The reason that the VW camper is going to be getting more use soon is
> that my wife and I are expecting a baby.
>
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