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Date:         Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:39:04 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: BZ shelf
Comments: To: Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <71A7DF3A-43BA-4135-B428-4852DF8E0375@vickersdesign.com>
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Good questions, although I'll thank you not to ask about my "junk" in a public place.

Yes, the shelf makes it a bit harder to hoist the lid. The crossbar is no longer graspable, but it is shoveable. It took me a few times to figure out how to hoist and drop the top but it works fine.

What keeps the shelf from tipping over is where Tom's cleverness shows: the crossarm has a couple bends in it, one at each end near where it connects to the pivot hinge assemblies and the shelf, clamped to the main horizontal middle section of the crossarm, rests on the bends. Lift your poptop and see how the bendy parts provide horizontal support for the shelf. I've had lots of stuff up there, like full boxes of groceries, and unless the wood breaks or the u-bolt backing plates pull through the shelf, it can't tip.

-- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano KG6RCR

On 1/28/2008 7:04 PM Jeffrey Vickers wrote:

> These questions may have been covered when the amazing shelf project > first hit the list, but: > > ---doesn't the shelf prevent you from grabbing the crossbar and > pushing the poptop up? > > and... > ---what prevents the shelf from rotating downward (when loaded with > stuff) and sending your junk plummeting towards the floor? > > > > Jeff > > > > On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:41:20 -0800 >> From: B Monk <wmonk@SNET.NET> >> Subject: Re: Another BZ Shelf Gets Installed! >> >> Didn't know the wiki page existed. I like it. I'll have to add a few >> articles I have written >> a few years back for the LiMBO newsletter. I should still have them >> somewhere on a CD. >> I plan on making the shelf out of a piece of wood thats laminated >> in similar grey >> to match the cabinets of the Westy we plan on picking up this >> weekend. It'll be a great place to set the portable DVD players on >> and the stuff animal collection they carry with them on our road >> trips. Now that the kids are older they will be sleeping up top. >> This way we can have a cup of tea before bed and not disturb them >> like we used to when they slept on the bottom. Thanks for again for >> the link Michael. >> >> Bill


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