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Date:         Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:35:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: BZ shelf
Comments: To: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <479E9FD8.5030605@gmail.com>
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On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Michael Elliott wrote:

> Good questions, although I'll thank you not to ask about my "junk" > in a > public place. > > Yes, the shelf makes it a bit harder to hoist the lid. The crossbar > is no > longer graspable, but it is shoveable. It took me a few times to > figure > out how to hoist and drop the top but it works fine. > > What keeps the shelf from tipping over is where Tom's cleverness > shows: > the crossarm has a couple bends in it, one at each end near where it > connects to the pivot hinge assemblies and the shelf, clamped to > the main > horizontal middle section of the crossarm, rests on the bends. Lift > your > poptop and see how the bendy parts provide horizontal support for the > shelf. I've had lots of stuff up there, like full boxes of > groceries, and > unless the wood breaks or the u-bolt backing plates pull through the > shelf, it can't tip.

It's called a cantilever-not much of 1 but enuf to hold up almost anything you can lift up & place on the shelf. The "moment resisting" action of the just tightened enuf u-bolts also helps.

Mr. BZ, AIA > > -- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano > KG6RCR > > > > On 1/28/2008 7:04 PM Jeffrey Vickers wrote: > >> These questions may have been covered when the amazing shelf project >> first hit the list, but: >> >> ---doesn't the shelf prevent you from grabbing the crossbar and >> pushing the poptop up? >> >> and... >> ---what prevents the shelf from rotating downward (when loaded with >> stuff) and sending your junk plummeting towards the floor? >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:41:20 -0800 >>> From: B Monk <wmonk@SNET.NET> >>> Subject: Re: Another BZ Shelf Gets Installed! >>> >>> Didn't know the wiki page existed. I like it. I'll have to add a few >>> articles I have written >>> a few years back for the LiMBO newsletter. I should still have them >>> somewhere on a CD. >>> I plan on making the shelf out of a piece of wood thats laminated >>> in similar grey >>> to match the cabinets of the Westy we plan on picking up this >>> weekend. It'll be a great place to set the portable DVD players on >>> and the stuff animal collection they carry with them on our road >>> trips. Now that the kids are older they will be sleeping up top. >>> This way we can have a cup of tea before bed and not disturb them >>> like we used to when they slept on the bottom. Thanks for again for >>> the link Michael. >>> >>> Bill


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