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Date:         Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:45:30 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: NVC Re: Stevens Creek Volkswagen in Santa Clara
Comments: To: Ryan Shawley <easywind1975@HOTMAIL.COM>
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And from the repair shops viewpoint, on 'repair insurance' or whatever you want to call it. It's not a fun deal. The insurance company doesn't pay for diagnosis for example, or the sales tax I don't think, and for other various minor expenses. Just 'the part' and 'the labor'...........and they'll give the shop a hard time about what they charge.......... They will flat just say 'we only pay 3.6 hours labor to replace a jaguar power steering rack' ...........and will harass the shop about the part price too. And not pay for core charges up front, and should the core be not good as a core, the shop could get stuck, and the customer, once gone with a repaired car is not likely to say, oh, sorry........sure, here's 300 bucks to cover my bad core. As a professional car repair person, I just pretty much 'will not' do that kind of repair work. It's a terrible hassle. And I won't mention that if the company happens to be in some place like new york they're just a bit more uptight and unfriendly than one might expect being form the west coast. Re new car sales ..............how they sell new cars - typically they make it just plan hard for a customer to walk in, pick out a car, and leave after a while in a nice clean deal. It's a scam even. I haven't heard about this for a while...............for a while there, there was 'no dickering ' pricing ...........just one price that was not artificially inflated, and the basic idea was no haggling and going back and forth. What ever happened to that anyway, anyone have an idea ? Scott

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Shawley Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:28 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: NVC Re: Stevens Creek Volkswagen in Santa Clara

I had an "acquaintance" who worked as a car salesman and he confirmed that the commission is high on an extended 3rd party warranty. He also had to find another job because the place he worked for didn't always turn in the paperwork and payment they collected for the warranties they sold. Apparently the law caught up to em when customer's repairs weren't being covered. (who could see that coming?) If you buy one, confirm with company that you are indeed covered.

Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Streib" <streib@CS.INDIANA.EDU> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:23 Subject: Re: NVC Re: Stevens Creek Volkswagen in Santa Clara

> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@YAHOO.COM> writes: > >> Customarily...new parts are used only when under the factory >> warranty. Under the EXTENDED warranty, reman parts may be used. >> This is in the fine print and this is the hook that the dealer >> uses. The DEALER, not the factory, warrants the EXTENDED >> portion. FYI. > > Factory warranties are for marketing. Extended warranties are best > thought of as an "insurance policy" you buy to protect yourself from > large unexpected repair bills. > > Generally the dealer is acting as a salesperson for an unrelated > extended warranty company. The commission on these extended warranty > sales is high, that's why they push them a lot. Depending on the > warranty, it may be useable at any repair facility, not just the > dealer shop where you bought it. > > Allan > -- > 1991 Vanagon GL >


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