Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:04:28 -0500
Reply-To: Ron Tipton <uther@DRAGONHOME.ORG>
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From: Ron Tipton <uther@DRAGONHOME.ORG>
Subject: Re: NVC - MS vs Mac
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i've earned my living as a computer geek for around 40 years. i
personally own a sun solaris server, a linux desktop
box, a pc laptop and a mac laptop. the sun is the most stable. i
just checked and it's been up 438 days. no problems.
it's an smtp (email) server, a dns server, a web server and a file
server. the linux (redhat) desktop has been up 33 days.
it's mostly used for reading email, surfing the web and programming.
the mac laptop (macbook pro) is the machine i
always carry around with me and the one i use for all my music. i
love all three of these.
the pc is the newest machine. it mostly gathers dust. i got it so i
could run some pc only software and games. it's ok,
but vista isn't my favorite o/s. it's more stable than many other
microsoft o/s's i've used over the years but still is not as
stable as any of the others. for a non-geek, i'd recommend a mac any
day. i've bought one for both of my grandkids
and one for my mother. the two year old, the eight year old and the
84 year old all use their macs and enjoy them. as
far as i'm concerned, you can't go wrong with a mac.
r
On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Ben Cichowski wrote:
> Go with a Mac... a PC... whatever you're most comfortable with -
> they all work for 90% of the people using a computer.
>
> If you haven't ever used a Mac, you will hate it for about 2
> months, but then you'll love every minute with it. The main deal
> IMO is that if you are doing ANYTHING other than "business
> processing" Mac is superior. The only reason that a PC does better
> in this one context is because so many people are using them, and
> there are some Mac-to-PC talking issues that can make cross
> platform use a bit of a pain.
>
> As for programs, the vast majority out there will work on Macs. For
> those very few that do not, Parallels can be installed and works
> great - just an icon on your desktop that runs Windows. Earlier
> versions of these programs like "boot camp" and the like, did have
> some limitations, I'll admit.
>
> BTW, in reference to the comment:
>
>>>>> i also have a windows machine cause there is one program mac
>>>>> cannot run
>>>>> cause it does not exist
>>>>> and that program is In Design by adobe ...( a form creation tool)
>>>>>
>
> In Design most certainly is mac compatible...not sure where that is
> coming from??? I use In Design on my Mac all the time.
>
>> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:08:07 -0800
>> From: dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM
>> Subject: Re: NVC - MS vs Mac
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>
>> Wow, that's good to know. I have SP6 installed on the Win2k.
>> It never crashes. But it can be knocked out by viruses though.
>> My PC has two 1.4 GHz Pentium 3 in it with 5 ultra-3 SCSI
>> disk drives. Very cool hardware.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> --- John Meeks <vanagon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Right on! Win2k is the best OS M$ ever built. It is based on the NT
>>> server code. Vista was supposed to be built on Server2003 code
>>> but the
>>> boys at Redmond couldn't pull it off. They just added all the new
>>> crap
>>> to the XP codebase.
>>>
>>> I run XP Pro on an old Toughbook for GPS and ETKA & MP3 etc. Toss it
>>> in the Vanagon and go!
>>>
>>> jm
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2008 2:50 PM, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> My PC running Win2k professional has not crashed once for at
>>>> least 2 years.
>>>> I have it on and running for a whole week continuously
>>>> sometimes. It is on
>>>> everyday. I have a gig of memory and several hundred gigs of
>>>> Ultra Scsi-3
>>>> HDs. But it was hit by viruses twice recently. It probably has
>>>> received
>>>> a ton of spyware or adware. Had Spybot installed but it never
>>>> killed all
>>>> offenders. The moment it cleaned up more will be back in.
>>>>
>>>> The hardware is unbeatable. Win2k professional is unbeatable
>>>> too. It is the
>>>> browsers, web sites I ran into and emails I receive that were
>>>> problematic.
>>>> The first virus attack, actually a spyware, caused me to give up
>>>> and had to
>>>> reinstall everything which of course was not everything. I lost
>>>> some weight.
>>>> The 2nd one took me 3 days to kill. That was a bit of luck.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if Mac will be any different. Tried Red Hat Linux
>>>> before. Not fun.
>>>> So I am going to stick with my Win2k for now.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dear all
>>>>> mac ... well... have two ... a g5 and a 17 inch macbookpro
>>>>> on the g5 have 1/2 a terrabyte of space and it is often full
>>>>> when immersed
>>>>> in a video project
>>>>> i also have a windows machine cause there is one program mac
>>>>> cannot run
>>>>> cause it does not exist
>>>>> and that program is In Design by adobe ...( a form creation tool)
>>>>>
>>>>> a mac can and does crash when over whelmed ...
>>>>> but it does take a lot to over whelm... (the program simply
>>>>> closes on its
>>>>> own)
>>>>> simple fix ... save often
>>>>> pc can and does crash when ever it simply feels like it ...
>>>>>
>>>>> bottom line ... get the macs running asap ...
>>>>> purchase as much RAM as you can stuff into it ...
>>>>> you can not have enough RAM ever ...
>>>>>
>>>>> get a tower if you can afford it
>>>>>
>>>>> *dont* get the new apple air ... for at least another 5 years
>>>>>
>>>>> at least once a week ...
>>>>> close your computer programs and shut off to rest ceramics for
>>>>> the night
>>>>>
>>>>> good luck and enjoy the mac (single click mouse)
>>>>> yours
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008 9:09 AM, Jeff Lincoln <magikvw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noooooooooo!!!! Larry, What have you done????
>>>>>>> Thread count pool!! I say 142
>>>>>>> jm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think John is right this could be huge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for my limited opinion well - I have yet to use a MAC
>>>>>> however those
>>>>>> whom
>>>>>> I have encountered who do own them love them, swear by them,
>>>>>> and will
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> look to MS again. I've been told they are rock solid. I've
>>>>>> been tempted
>>>>>> myself - my only concern has been availablility of software
>>>>>> and tools -
>>>>>> however that concern could be from the dark ages.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> '90 Carat (Grover)
>>>>>> '86 (We call this one Parts)
>>>>>> '85 GL (Preparing to move to a new Home)
>>>>>> '78 Bus (Melissa) Patty's Bus
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> roger w
>>>>> There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
>>>>> Picking up garbage and telling people things.
>>>>> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> View the growing list of video work at:
>>>>> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners
>>>>> and ... older work at
>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257
>>>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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