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Date:         Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:31:37 -0800
Reply-To:     Geordie Birch <geordie@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Geordie Birch <geordie@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: No emails!!!
In-Reply-To:  <47AE25C2.8040003@gmail.com>
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Gmail seems to have no problem keeping up to massive volumes of mail - when I first got my acc't I wanted to see what would happen if I hit the (then) two gig quota so I signed up to the Linux Kernel Mailing List and the Debian User list. No problems, and no leakage into my inbox. (I finally maxed it out a year ago - gmail wouldn't let me send mail until I deleted something.)

Geordie.

On 2/9/08, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > How about gmail -- my list messages cut off for more than 24 hours earlier > this week (but not non-gerry messages), lurched forward and caught up, > slowly passed on smatterings of older messages, cut off, re-started, and > maybe seems to be working fine now for gerry stuff. Other gmail users have > reported the same thing -- again, no problem with non-gerry messages. > > When this happened last year Jim Arnott took a look and found that some > logfiles -- or maybe it was gerry's gutters? -- needed cleaning. Once they > were cleaned, things returned to normal. Didn't improve the /quality/ of > gerry traffic, but traffic was back up to speed. I don't know if Jim can > do anything about the quality thing. I know I'm not helping. > > -- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano > KG6RCR > > > > On 2/9/2008 1:39 PM John Goubeaux wrote: > > > If you are talking specifically about delays for mail destined for yahoo > > accounts i can confirm that yahoo is "rate limiting" mail to it's users > > (throttling back connections) likely for antispam reasons. > > > > I manage a large mail system for the U of California and I have seen > > delays for mail destined to yahoo for months now. Usually it stays in > > our queues for hours, not days, and eventually gets delivered. Whomever > > has access to the mail exchanger that the gerry list sends through > > should be able to confirm if this is happening. > > > > -john > > > > Mike S wrote: > >> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2008, Michael Sullivan wrote... > >> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> This is a GREAT example of log jam from Gerry. > >> What make you think it is Gerry? I already pointed out to you that > >> Gerry didn't seem to be delaying email when you complained yesterday. > >> It may be that yahoo has internal processing delays, or may be > >> throttling email receipts or that one or more of their inbound mail > >> servers is malfunctioning. Yahoo has 7 MX records (mail servers), and > >> some of those resolve to multiple IP addresses. If one is > >> malfunctioning, and doesn't accept mail from Gerry for some reason, > >> Gerry will properly back off before retrying. Gerry runs qmail, so for > >> a message delivered after 2 days and 1 hour, that would have been the > >> 22nd delivery attempt. > >> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#retry-schedule > >> > >> You can't just blame Gerry for delayed email - at least look at the > >> headers and see when it was received by yahoo from gerry. > >> > >> I received the email from Gerry about 6 minutes after you sent it. > >> Relevant headers: > >> > >>> Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([71.126.148.6]) > >>> by box261.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) > >>> (envelope-from <owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>) > >>> id 1JNA7O-00047c-RZ > >>> for mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700 > >>> Received: from web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP > >>> for > >>> Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > >>> <0.0029F3BA@gerry.vanagon.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:17 -0500 >


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