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Date:         Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:11:58 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: New VW Rotten Unvieled // TDI?
Comments: To: "Chris S." <mrpolak@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <209752.45229.qm@web52502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Yes and when your injection pump needs rebuilding I will cost the equivalent of 250 gallons of fuel to get the whole job done, something a gasoline car doesn't' even have at all. Nor does a gasoline car have a comparable expensive fuel system part that is a predictable major expense like a fuel injection pump rebuild.

Fuel cost is only one part of the equation. Diesels cost more to get in the first place, and are often more expensive to repair. 'really fantastic fuel mileage' is just the short term immediate benefit, and not the whole story at all. I will grant you though, that counting all expenses from new purchase to say 200,000 miles the diesel will probably come out ahead on cost per mile compared to the gas car, but not by any astronomical amount like 60 % less over all or anything like that. Maybe 25 % less over all long term, as a wild guess.

Tell me about this 'diesel fuel is less than gas in the summer' ............. I've noticed the fluctuation ( diesel in southern Oregon is more than premium gas right now, as it often is ) ........but not that is was less in the summer than gas. When did you first notice that, And why is that ? scott

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Chris S. Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:06 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: New VW Rotten Unvieled // TDI?

>>Chris S, and other TDI, or NA Diesel aficionados;

My New Beetle TDI gets 45 MPG in Atlanta traffic. A gas powered New Beetle would muster 25 MPG. That's a difference of 80% over gas.

Diesel fuel currently costs $3.39 a gallon while regular is $2.89. That's a difference of 17%.

This means I still save over 60% of fuel costs over a gas Beetle in the winter when Diesel is more expensive. In the summer my savings are more substantial because the cost of diesel drops to below that of gas. I drive 55 miles a day, so it adds up.

My Westy averages 18MPG. If I could get 25 out of a diesel under same conditions I'd still come out ahead.

What it also means is that if the entire country drove clean diesels we could fart in AlQuida's, Saudi's, Iran's and Iraq's general direction.

Chris S.

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