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Date:         Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:17:53 +1300
Reply-To:     Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
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From:         Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject:      Re: New VW Rotten Unvieled // TDI?
In-Reply-To:  <462001.82228.qm@web83210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>I hate to ask, but for the last 5 years I've been puzzled by the >fascination with the TDI or NA/Diesel for that matter. Some folks >would buy a vehicle because it had a V6 TDI? Why? Is it it a >philosophy or facts? When it hits -15 below zero I've seen a few of >those Dodge MB sprinters sitting in the driveways with their hoods >up not starting. Diesel is 35 cents more a gallon than gas. What am >I missing? Maybe if I have to ask I'll never understand... > >when that time comes the diesel engine will run on anything that has a fat >content ...

Not quite. Whale blubber anyone? Now, THAT's biodiesel!

>indeed i even have a friend who claims to have run a stationary diesel on >milk ..

Tell him to pull the other one. Milk's 99.99% water.

>Diesels ... hmmm almost an aphrodisiac ...

Er... perhaps for some.

Diesels have attractions for economy, whether the fuel is cheaper than gas (as it is here in NZ) or just for kilometerage.

It is only of benefit if either of the above is subsatantial. Diesel maintenance costs may be higher than gas engines (older diesels had about 5000km filter/oilchange interval). The exhaust is messy and the oil is horrid stuff once used... stains everything it touches pitch-black.

At least, with Renault's new particulate-filter/flashburn technology, sooty exhaust will become a thing of the past with new diesels, once other manufacturers take it up or design their own setups.

Performance is well down on gas engines. The trens to turbodiesels gives much better performance (as I can attest after changing my Corolla from NA 1.8D to 2.0TD). BUT this also comes at a cost... turbo seals do fail, heads do crack and the supercharging causes messy blowby even on healthy diesel engines. And turbodiesels DO use more fuel than NA versions of the same engine (the injectors are larger-capacity to prevent excessive leanness).

As to small 6-cylinder diesels, they are a waste of time. A four of the same capacity will develop much more torque, which is why the Japanese (with a temporary aberration by Nissan in the 70s to early 90s with tits awful LD28s & RD28s) use fours up to almost 4 liters. The fours are also much easier (and therefore cheaper) to work on... and if major repairs are needed, will cost less for parts (fewer bearings, pistons, ringsets etc). Granted that diesel fours don't sound as good as sixes, but what the heck.

I recently saw a webpage where someone had installed a Toyota Estima supercharger on a 2C-T in a Corona. Being a Roots-type, I doubt that it would help with the head-cracking problem, as these chargers develop a lot of heat.

Here in NZ the the local organized crime ring (government) is going the opposite way to the rest of the world. The gummint is trying to get diesels off the road because of "health issues". So yearly registration of diesels is higher than that of gas cars; there is a roaduser tax (supposedly for repair of roads damaged by big trucks, but in politics anything that can be gotten away with will be) by kilometer on diesel cars (so a lot of diesel cars spend much time with the speedo disconnected... not mine, though) and import of used diesels, even trucks, from Japan has been stopped. The fact that diesel fuel is less than gas still makes small diesels cheaper to run than gas cars, but the break-even point is being approached. Which is why I'm considering getting a written-off late-90s FWD or 4WD Corolla wagon and fitting a 3V Toyota V6 to it.

Now, if they can build car diesels to run on alcohols... -- Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Fossil preparator Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut ‚ Opinions stated are mine, not those of Otago University "There is water at the bottom of the ocean" - Talking Heads


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