Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:38:01 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
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From: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject: Re: Bluetec diesel
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That's a really good point... presumably they have a MIL of some kind
to tell you to go by some more smurf pee at the VW dealer, but what if
you delay?
I have no idea how that'll work.. but I'll sure be paying attention
when they start selling.
Jim Akiba
On 2/21/08, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And what happens if you let it run out of fluid? Does it shut down and
> leave you stranded or is there some sort of limp mode?
>
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Akiba
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:56 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Bluetec diesel
>
> Daimler is part of the Bluetec marketing coalition. And yup.. it's
> urea all right, except instead of pissing into the "adblue" reservoir,
> you'll have to visit the dealer and pay for refills.
>
>
> Jim Akiba
>
>
> On 2/21/08, Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I thought that Bluetec was a Mercedez developed technology and that VW
> > was going to use a different version of catalytic converter for their
> > diesels? They had a nice article on this in a past issue of Popular
> > Mechanics. The part that I think is weird is the substance that they
> > are using as the catalyst in the Bluetec cat. They called it "urea"
> in
> > the article and they didn't elaborate. Isn't this pee pee (I use the
> > polite term here for the small children in the audience)? So you have
> a
> > container somewhere in a Benz that contains whizz, piss, urine, etc.
> > which is slowly injecting this into your catalytic converter to help
> > break down the diesel emissions. I wonder how this is going to go
> over
> > with the MB crowd? At least it should be easy to refill the container
> > (just go on a long trip and drink a lot of coffee). Yeah right!
> Knowing
> > the German mindset, only pure German Wee-wee (TM) will do :-)
> >
> > Am I the only one that sees this system as a gold mine for jokes in
> the
> > future?
> >
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > www.vanagain.com
> >
> >
> > Jim Akiba wrote:
> > > It's going to be interesting for sure. I hope it does indeed come
> out
> > > this year, and it'll be interesting to see how folks deal with the
> > > Bluetec and how it goes. Bluetec has been the one to watch for a
> while
> > > since it'll be the first ready, but it'll be interesting to see what
> > > happens when it actually starts selling. I guess we'll have to wait
> > > until the end of 3rd quarter which is the latest pushback delay date
> > >
> > >
> http://www.brandweek.com/bw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003670
> 246
> > >
> > > Low and behold the problem was related to durability of the
> emissions
> > > system... hopefully they'll get it sorted and launched. I think it's
> > > far worse if they try to hurry it up, and wind up shooting
> themselves
> > > in the foot with problems. Since everyone is watching bluetec to see
> > > what happens, it NEEDS to go well.
> > >
> > > We also need to wait and see what the mileage is actually going to
> be,
> > > 50 would show no loss in MPG vs. a non-bluetec setup, which I find
> > > hard to believe but would be a great accomplishment. Tick-tock,
> > > nothing to do but wait.
> > >
> > > Jim Akiba
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/21/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Old news...
> > >>
> http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1906.shtml
> > >>
> > >> newer news...
> > >>
> http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_2069.shtml
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The car will be introduced later this year as a 2009. 140 hp, huge
> 236
> > >> lb/ft of torque at around 1900 rpm, which I'm quoting from
> memory so I might
> > >> be off by 5 in either direction... and over 50 mpg on the highway.
> > >> Chris S.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: Jim Akiba <jakiba@bostig.com>
> > >> To: Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54:22 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Zetec diesel
> > >>
> > >> On 2/20/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> By the way, Lutz, who has a good point, might want to check out
> the new
> > >>> Jetta with piezo injectors which yield over 50mpg (US) on the
> EPA highway
> > >>> cycle. ;-)
> > >>>
> > >> The new Jetta is only available in the 2.5L 5 cylinder right now I
> > >> thought...
> > >>
> > >> Jim Akiba
> > >>
> > >>
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