Date:         Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:54:01 -0500
Reply-To:     BJ Feddish <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET>
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From:         BJ Feddish <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET>
Subject:      Re: Electric Vanagon?
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You could if you didn't mind that when you pressed the start key 100
Jigawatts were released instantaneously into your engine bringing you up to
250 mhph from which you would have to coast to your next recharge. :0)

Bryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Mike
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:06 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Electric Vanagon?

Speaking of capacitors, why can't one use them?  They're lighter than a
battery, and can accept and give their charge quickly (and fully) billions
of times?  How about a large bank of 1 Farad caps somehow wired together to
a power supply/ regulator/ controller connected to 4 wheel hub-mounted
motor/ generators 'a la' Porsche's early design?  Hmmm.

Mike B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Wilford" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Electric Vanagon?


>I agree.  I think it is ironic that this lady complains about the big
>"conspiracy" to kill the electric car only to show us the real reason why
>the electric car doesn't work (high cost, super heavy, no range and lead
>acid batteries stink!).  If you read the whole thing carefully you will
>find that with a ton of donated parts and help they still spent over
>$10,000 to get a Vanagon that will drive maybe 25 miles each way (if it
>doesn't break down).  They added over 1500 lbs of weight to the unladen van
>in batteries!  Of course before that they had an "expensive" and
>"unreliable" water boxer powerplant in there:-)  Just to compare they could
>have had a rebuilt water boxer with all new exhaust system, coolant system,
>rebuilt transmission, and more for less than $10k including the labor!
>
> I give them credit for trying to live their dream.  It is just a shame
> that reality hasn't caught up to the dream of the electric car.  Again I
> find it ironic that almost exactly 100 years after the origins of the car
> all of the different ideas that were originally tried are being tried
> again.  Electric cars were some of the first ever made.  Diesel, hybrids,
> etc were all rolled out as production cars in those early years.  The only
> newer idea I can see would be the hydrogen powered cars.
>
> Please,
> I beg someone, make a super high capacity battery/capacitor that is light
> weight.  Yes that would kill the ICE engine.  We've only been waiting for
> it for the past hundred years though.
>
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Ken Lewis <kdlewis@NORTHSTATE.NET>
>
>> What a ridiculous waste of time, money and resources. What is the point?
>> Ken Lewis
>> http://neksiwel.20m.com/
>