Date:         Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:50:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Chad Lyles <chad.lyles@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Chad Lyles <chad.lyles@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Failed emissions (DEQ)
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
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well i guess my next question is, what is the catalyst and what will it take
to pass emissions? just the O2 sensor? or everything above?
sounds very doom and gloom...
the AFM was a referbished one that i got on line from a auto shop in
california. i need to figure all of this out before i hit the road.
thanks for the info and the heads up Dennis!
Chad~

On Feb 17, 2008 3:03 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You have one major issue here. The O2 sensor is not working. In addition,
> with CO this high the air flow meter was probably tampered with. It is
> also possible that the ignition timing is overly advanced causing air
> starvation at idle and giving the high CO readings.
>
> CO at idle should be around 1% or less before the catalyst and near "0"
> after it.
> The high HC may be caused by the excessive CO. With these readings you
> also need to be aware the catalyst is probably shot.
>
> As a side note, this is why emissions tests are needed. You are a gross
> polluter not aware that something was even wrong. At some point
> certification will be required to be allowed to work on emissions and
> engine control systems. We have the program here in NY.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Chad Lyles
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:08 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Failed emissions (DEQ)
>
> ok here we go....numbers are idle /2nd idle
>
> 84GL Auto 1.9
>
>
> HC STD -   220/220
> CO STD -  1/1
> Dilution -     6/6
> HC -   167/196
> CO -    3.6639/2.8594
> CO2 - 9.2/8.6
> RPM -  900/900
>
> Smoke test: pass
> Noise test: Pass
> Fule cap : Pass
> Catalytic Converter :pass
>
> those are all of the numbers on my read out...
> anything else that you will need? if not let me know:)
> thanks!
> Chad~
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2008 12:04 PM, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chad, we need ALL the numbers and at both idle and run.   CO, NOx, HC,
> the
> > works.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 17, 2008 11:40 AM, Chad Lyles <chad.lyles@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ok the numbers i failed were in the carbon monoxide realm idle results
> > > were
> > > 3.6639 and 2nd (high idle) idle was 2.8594 everything else passed...
> it
> > > was
> > > suggesting my choke was stuck or nt properly adjusted... nd since i
> got
> > > my
> > > van outta the shop my warm up idle sucks. shuttering and such...which
> it
> > > didnt do before the tune up... but it was a full tune up...air/oil
> > > filter
> > > cap rotor plugs and wires oil change....
> > > any way those are the only numbers i see anything else i can give
> > > youguys to
> > > maybe help this out?
> > > thanks again
> > > C~
> > >
> > > On Feb 16, 2008 6:53 PM, Joseph Fortino <fortino1@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > always some voodoo to get this vans to pass, retard or something
> > > crazy,
> > > > people can
> > > > not side with me but this smog thing is a joke if you ask me. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
> > > > >Sent: Feb 16, 2008 1:01 PM
> > > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Failed emissions (DEQ)
> > > > >
> > > > >Show us the numbers Chad!  A full and complete disclosure.
> > > > >
> > > > >On Feb 16, 2008 12:31 PM, Chad Lyles <chad.lyles@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> hi all, i just took my van through Oregon DEQ and it failed on
> the
> > > > CO...i
> > > > >> JUST got a full tune up... what the heck!?
> > > > >> what could it be? UGH.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Chad~
> > > > >> 84gl "Hop-a-long"
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Jake
> > > > >1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > >1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > >Crescent Beach, BC
> > > > >www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > > >http://subyjake.googlepages.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  "the possession of anything begins in the mind" - Bruce Lee
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chad~
> > > 84gl "Hop-a-long"
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jake
> > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > Crescent Beach, BC
> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Chad~
> 84gl "Hop-a-long"
>
>


--
Chad~
84gl "Hop-a-long"