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Date:         Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:28:04 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: prospective '82 diesel -good mechanicals, so-so body
Comments: To: Allan Streib <streib@CS.INDIANA.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <m1ve4lzbjy.fsf@cs.indiana.edu>
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If there's serious rust......... You can spend hundreds of hours fixing or replacing it, and never get to something really good actually. If you just want something 'that runs' .........fine, but it more fun to drive something pretty decent, and safer for sure. You're right ..........anything on a car is easier to deal with than rust. Even headliners and upholstery aren't as bad as real rust, as in body cancer. Surface rust is fun and easy to stop forever, btw. But holes...........and like the man says, you are just seeing the tip of the iceberg usually. On the only rusty car I ever got I think..........a European model BMW 3.0CS Coupe ............a fairly exotic and beautiful car, but badly rusted......... I should have either paid only 1/3 of what I did for it, or never have gotten it. It did get it perfectly awswomely looking after a intense blue metallic paint job and countless metal replacement hours.............but all I ever really got out of it genuinely was the right to say I've owned a 1972 European model BMW 3.0CS Coupe. And a couple of trips. When I sold it still needed the suspension gotten back to stock or decent at least. So stay away from serious rust. It's like you can never really fully overcome it, you can make up for it some, but it's never the same as a not-rusted car.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:49 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: prospective '82 diesel -good mechanicals, so-so body

Edward Duntz <eduntz@HOTMAIL.COM> writes:

> How about opinions on rebuilt engine with rusty body vs. older > engine and good body?

Well, I always feel that I'd rather deal with almost ANY other issue besides rust. With rust, there's always about 10 times more than you can actually see, and once it starts it's very difficult to actually stop it, the only way is to cut it out, and weld in new metal.

If you have the tools and experience to do good body work (I don't), you may feel differently. Also depends on your objectives -- if you just need something for utility for a few years or as long as it lasts, as long as the rust is not seriously compromising the vehicle's structural integrity you may be happy enough to just let it go. If you are thinking about repairing significant rust, unless you've done this kind of restoration before you might want to talk to some people who have about the amount of work you'll be getting into.

Allan -- 1991 Vanagon GL


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