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Date:         Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:38:01 -0500
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bluetec diesel
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <BAY125-DAV1023334E642C1BAE1927DDA01C0@phx.gbl>
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That's a really good point... presumably they have a MIL of some kind to tell you to go by some more smurf pee at the VW dealer, but what if you delay?

I have no idea how that'll work.. but I'll sure be paying attention when they start selling.

Jim Akiba

On 2/21/08, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > And what happens if you let it run out of fluid? Does it shut down and > leave you stranded or is there some sort of limp mode? > > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Akiba > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:56 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Bluetec diesel > > Daimler is part of the Bluetec marketing coalition. And yup.. it's > urea all right, except instead of pissing into the "adblue" reservoir, > you'll have to visit the dealer and pay for refills. > > > Jim Akiba > > > On 2/21/08, Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: > > I thought that Bluetec was a Mercedez developed technology and that VW > > was going to use a different version of catalytic converter for their > > diesels? They had a nice article on this in a past issue of Popular > > Mechanics. The part that I think is weird is the substance that they > > are using as the catalyst in the Bluetec cat. They called it "urea" > in > > the article and they didn't elaborate. Isn't this pee pee (I use the > > polite term here for the small children in the audience)? So you have > a > > container somewhere in a Benz that contains whizz, piss, urine, etc. > > which is slowly injecting this into your catalytic converter to help > > break down the diesel emissions. I wonder how this is going to go > over > > with the MB crowd? At least it should be easy to refill the container > > (just go on a long trip and drink a lot of coffee). Yeah right! > Knowing > > the German mindset, only pure German Wee-wee (TM) will do :-) > > > > Am I the only one that sees this system as a gold mine for jokes in > the > > future? > > > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com > > > > > > Jim Akiba wrote: > > > It's going to be interesting for sure. I hope it does indeed come > out > > > this year, and it'll be interesting to see how folks deal with the > > > Bluetec and how it goes. Bluetec has been the one to watch for a > while > > > since it'll be the first ready, but it'll be interesting to see what > > > happens when it actually starts selling. I guess we'll have to wait > > > until the end of 3rd quarter which is the latest pushback delay date > > > > > > > http://www.brandweek.com/bw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003670 > 246 > > > > > > Low and behold the problem was related to durability of the > emissions > > > system... hopefully they'll get it sorted and launched. I think it's > > > far worse if they try to hurry it up, and wind up shooting > themselves > > > in the foot with problems. Since everyone is watching bluetec to see > > > what happens, it NEEDS to go well. > > > > > > We also need to wait and see what the mileage is actually going to > be, > > > 50 would show no loss in MPG vs. a non-bluetec setup, which I find > > > hard to believe but would be a great accomplishment. Tick-tock, > > > nothing to do but wait. > > > > > > Jim Akiba > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Old news... > > >> > http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1906.shtml > > >> > > >> newer news... > > >> > http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_2069.shtml > > >> > > >> > > >> The car will be introduced later this year as a 2009. 140 hp, huge > 236 > > >> lb/ft of torque at around 1900 rpm, which I'm quoting from > memory so I might > > >> be off by 5 in either direction... and over 50 mpg on the highway. > > >> Chris S. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ---- > > >> From: Jim Akiba <jakiba@bostig.com> > > >> To: Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54:22 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Zetec diesel > > >> > > >> On 2/20/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> By the way, Lutz, who has a good point, might want to check out > the new > > >>> Jetta with piezo injectors which yield over 50mpg (US) on the > EPA highway > > >>> cycle. ;-) > > >>> > > >> The new Jetta is only available in the 2.5L 5 cylinder right now I > > >> thought... > > >> > > >> Jim Akiba > > >> > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Yahoo! Search. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >


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