Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:08:43 -0700
Reply-To: Jon Rizzo <the_rizzos@MAC.COM>
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From: Jon Rizzo <the_rizzos@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: What just happened?
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Very Funny. I feel your pain. I wouldn't make fun of your auto trans.
They might get worse gas mileage than a stick even a 4wd stick but in
the mountains my wife's 86 westy with the auto pulls the passes
atleast 10mph faster... all the while I am doing the 2nd to 3rd to 2nd
dance. So... Good Luck
Jon
On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Chad Lyles wrote:
> yeah my starter is strong ... the full pump... TOO strong haha and i
> wsh i could push start it but i have an auto tran. bleh i know ...
> i think its the money... she sees the bank and says "cough cough...i
> think i need a new fuel pump" and i say " whats wrong with the one
> you have?" and she says "well, it works ... but its dirty and old
> looking" and i say " NO -YOU- START- NOW!"
> yeah i m crazy ... hope you followed that.
> also it was unseasonably warm today.
> so no cold reaction...
> i dunno...
> fingers crossed.
> C~
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Jon Rizzo <the_rizzos@mac.com> wrote:
> Chad,
>
> I have a 88 syncro that pulls the same trick sometimes. The last two
> times it was at the bank as well, could the smell of money make the
> ol' vanagon nervous? Anyway the first time it happened I was in a
> blizzard at 10,800 feet and 50 miles from home and the motor was
> turning over so slow. I tow it home check everything. I have fuel,
> spark, air I test every sensor that the Bentley book gives me a test
> for. The only thing I found was low compression in cylinder #3. So
> then I started to research new/used engines, thinking this ones a
> goner. I am still frustrated that it would not start and happened with
> no warning.
> So with the battery fully charged I go at it with a can of starting
> fluid holding the the throttle wide open. It starts and has started
> almost every time for another 15k but every once and a while when the
> weather is cold and the battery is a bit low, if it does not start on
> the first kick then the motor starts to turn very slowly and floods
> out. Then I ether have to wait and hold it to the floor and it may
> start (like your description) or I have gotten very good at the solo
> rolling push start. I blame it on high milage, slow turning starter
> and an over zealous fuel system. This may not be what is happen for
> you but perhaps it may provide some insight.
> What I do now when the conditions are right for a no start, cold,
> damp, high altitude I start it with my foot to the floor every time.
> Qwerky? yes but that why it's a Volkswagen.
>
> Jon
>
> On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> >
> > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:19:13 -0800
> > From: Chad Lyles <chad.lyles@GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: WHAT JUST HAPPENED???
> >
> > Hello,
> > well as i announced this morning ...i passed DEQ and Hoppy is
> running
> > GREAT... i went and got my new tags at DMV and then went to the
> > bank...(all
> > in hoppy) i was in the bank for 10 minutes came out and hoppy
> wouldnt
> > start... it would turn but not kick... checked the coil to see if i
> > was
> > getting a fire...i was getting consistant fire. checked the fuel
> > pump to see
> > if it was humming it was humming. every thing was as it should be...
> > i could
> > smell gas so gas was moving and had just filled up this
> > morning ...but no
> > VROOM...
> > i called the mechanic he was puzzled and said "just get it
> > towed" (which i
> > was like, "yeah i am 30 miles from you and i cant pay load up and 3
> > bucks a
> > mile on that!") so i called the tow truck and i was packing my stuff
> > up and
> > i thought hmm... i will try one more time... i put the pedal to the
> > floor
> > and cranked up... huge puff of smoke and strong smell of gas then
> > VROOOOM!!!
> >
> > so back to my question: WHAT JUST HAPPENED????
> > would the fact that i was parked on a incline maybe have been the
> > start of
> > this non starting? its never done that before... i am just
> > frustrated to the
> > max right now. i cant afford to keep putting her in the shop every 2
> > days...is this some thing i should worry about or chalk it up to a
> > fluke?
> >
> > --
> > Chad~
> > 84gl "Hop-a-long"
>
>
>
> --
> Chad~
> 84gl "Hop-a-long"
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