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Date:         Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:10:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bentley wiring diagram. Questions on how to read.
Comments: To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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Hi neil, I think you're getting it though ! One thing I would suggest, if the fuel pump relay in the jetta uses the ground in the fuse box ( and the relay is probably mounted right the fuse box come to think of it ! ) ............. 'it's normal in vanagon engine conversions to put that relay and the main relay and 02 heat relay in the back, by the engine and ECU back there, so don't run a wire forward looking for a ground in your vanagon fuse box up front of course. Just make a solid ground in the back, to the engine or to the body. You might need a relay socket or two though. I 'might' put just the relay portion of the jetta fuse box in the rear of the van, if that's all I had for relay sockets. I just keep doing what the factory does, and they put the relays back there by the engine in a waterboxer.

In a jetta the all the stuff is 'up front' ........engine ECU, fuse box etc............ But I a vanagon the only thing up front is the fuse box, and your vanagon fuse box is for the existing circuits in the vanagon like lights - just put all of it 'back there' and add in your own inline fuse holders as need be. On a subaru conversion we have one 25 amp fuse for power to the ECU, And one 15 amp fuse in the 'ignition on' power supply to back there. I just put the ECU and relays 'back there' or under the back seat for the ECU ............that's the best place for it really. I put the fuses in the engine compartment so they'll be accessible. Except for warning lights and gauges there's no need to go anywhere near the front of the van almost. Perhaps if you have a working CEL you might want that up there of course.

Scott www.turbovans.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of neil N Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:50 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Bentley wiring diagram. Questions on how to read.

Totally thanks much.

I see what are explaining, up to the part where it goes from track 42 to the fuse and relay.

I see it going to 42 which *looks like* ground. Do "we" assume that since there is already a ground from 31 that it must go to the fuse etc? Which is not visually connected in the diagram? And to boot there is a track reference number of 69 at the end of the wire from S18?

I'm not arguing :^)

And I really appreciate the patient help.

I just don't get it. Why couldn't they just draw a dang line from 42 up to the dang connection at S18? (he says doing his best Napoleon Dynamite impersonation)

Ahhhhh! I'm loosing my mind! Heh heh.

But really, in the big picture it doesn't really matter. Once I get my hands on the parts during the engine install, I'll stand a much better chance of "seeing" it and how it should go. Bottom line, I need a relay that gets turned on by the ECM which in turn will close the circuit supplying power to the fuel pump.


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