Date:         Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:51:45 -0800
Reply-To:     B <oddstray@ODDSTRAY.COM>
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From:         B <oddstray@ODDSTRAY.COM>
Subject:      Re: simple heat for stove top, e-bay
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Pick one:  "It's not rocket science" or "Reality bites!" ...

(1) It is true that this kind of heater  is not safe for indoor use
unless there is adequate ventilation (open windows, for example).
(2) It is true that the stove, with the heater on top, is just as
dangerous as the stove without the heater on top (since the heater
offers no added ventilation).

If your heat source is producing potentially dangerous gasses then you
need adequate ventilation.  If your adequate ventilation causes you to
lose your heating, then pick one: (1) turn off the heating (2) risk
dying in your sleep (3) get a properly installed and properly vented
heat source (4) <what have I missed?>

Great grandma who lived into her '90s heating with a kerosene heater
probably lived in a very draughty place.  "Well ventilated with the
top up"?  I'd be tempted to describe our b'loved 'Westy as a "draughty
place" except that there have been reports of people found dead of
carbon monoxide in the poptop of a 'Westy.   We have, on very cold
nights, run our stove to heat the space inside our 'Westy before
climbing into bed.  But we made darn sure it was turned off before we
climbed in ... !!!


B&S
'87 Westy 'Esmerelda Blanc'
SoCal


On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Loren Busch wrote:

> RE: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Gregory Smith <gfs@scattercreek.com
> >
> wrote:
>
>> This kind of "heater" is like a BBQ grill or kerosene heater, not
>> safe for
>> indoor use unless the windows are open , so what would be the point?
>
>
> If that were true then the stove, without the heater on top, would
> be just
> as dangerous.  And so would the millions of people that have gas
> stoves and
> ovens  in their homes.  Big, big difference between an efficient,
> clean
> burning flame in a properly engineered gas burner and smoldering
> charcoal in
> a BBQ.  And great grandma live into her '90s heating with a kerosene
> heater.  Maybe a little more caution in the confined (but well
> ventilated
> with the top up) space in a WEsty but still basically safe.
>
>>
>>