Date:         Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:56:10 -0800
Reply-To:     Zoltan Kuthy <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoltan Kuthy <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject:      Complaining to the World first ...
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It is child like to be shy to face the source of trouble and try to settle your difference.  Men, grown up men, do.  The general nature of the females is also to complain first to everybody else first, and probably never to the source.  Men, most of the time, don't even complain about it after it was settled.  The differences of the sexes and the stages in life are very noticable.  Many males and females may not be able to called "grown ups" in many ways, even when they are old.  It has much to do with the circumstances they grown up in.  
Today, we can see a lot of men behave female like and child like.  And can also see many woman behave man like and aggressive, violent.  These were absent in the classical world when families and communities were normal.  
Most Vanagon owners are very normal.  Of course, there is the ocassional exception, the helpless, complaining kind, but a Vanagon can make a man out of them too when they have to face all the challenges of life under the car, fix all the broken parts from one end to the other, and eventually they may come out of it as real man, on the way to be grown ups.  
This List provides the community they did not have, and here they will find brothers who are willing to help and scold and show the way but always providing that moral support.  
Zoltan
Not intended to make anyone feel bad.