Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:37:58 -0800
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
conversion)
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Ok.
I had a quick look at my Air cooled and WBX trannys in basement. (yes
lucky me. Got two unknown spares.... ;)
On the '80 AC I get 26.2 and the '85 WBX close to 27mm past face of
transaxle. I'm pretty sure they're the same length.
As for the KEP, I got 25.5 mm from face that meets Jetta block to face
that meets face of transaxle.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Mark Drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> That should depend on the thickness of the adapter plate. TIICO should
> know how much their plate needs but I wonder how thick theirs is
> compared to a KEP plate? I can't get to my spare KEP plate at the moment
> but a knockoff version I have is 25mm thick where it counts. What is the
> protrusion difference between a stock wbx bellhousing w/shaft and a
> stock diesel bellhousing w/shaft? I measured that stuff some time ago
> but can't find it now.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> aatransaxle wrote:
> > The Tiico conversions DO need 10 MM cut off the shaft, so I think the
> > common
> > jetta swap does as well.
> > Daryl of AA Transaxle
> > (425) 788-4070
> > aatransaxle.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
> > conversion)
> >
> >
> >> If you are not changing over to the diesel bell housing, WHY are you
> >> shortening the shaft? AFAIK, the adapter plates for inline 4 cyls add
> >> enough thickness to make up for the longer wbx shaft. Maybe I'm mistaken?
> >>
> >> I have shortened several and also swapped in many shorter shafts when
> >> using a gasser tranny with a diesel bell housing since that needs to be
> >> done in such a situation. Lately I just shorten the shafts since this
> >> cuts off the part of the shaft that gets worn in the boxer setup.
> >> Factory short shafts are often worn also so cutting a long one puts a
> >> fresh surface where the pilot bearing rides.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> neil N wrote:
> >>> Thanks Mark.
> >>>
> >>> Good tips. I was hoping I could cut in situ. It'll save a little money
> >>> (gasket/seal) and save some work. I'd rather take that money saved
> >>> from not buying the big gasket and seal and put it in a Dremel setup.
> >>>
> >>> I wondered if the shaft wasn't hard steel.
> >>>
> >>> Neil.
> >>>
> >>> On 3/7/08, Mark Drillock <drillock@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>> I cut them in the tranny. I use a heavy duty cutting disc in a Dremel,
> >>>> while someone else turns the shaft. I work a ring cut deeper and deeper
> >>>> as they turn one CV flange and hold the other still with the tranny in
> >>>> gear. The shaft is pretty hard and gets hot so I have a rag soaked with
> >>>> water wrapped around the rest of the shaft and another that I use to
> >>>> periodically cool the tip.
> >>>>
> >>>> After the cut I use an angle grinder to put a bevel on the edge of the
> >>>> tip, again while the shaft is turned.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Dremel blade is an abrasive type with fiber reinforcing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> neil N wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am getting closer to mounting the Jetta engine so am researching input
> >>>>> shaft stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can I cut the input shaft while it's still in the tranny?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It looks possible, but I don't know if hacksawing away at it is be bad
> >>>>> for parts attached to it. Plus angling (shaping) the end might present
> >>>>> a challenge.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neil.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >>>>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >>>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >>> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >>>
> >
>
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Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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