Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:00:28 -0800
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
conversion)
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Yah!
And Gold Plate it too!
Starts with an F!
"F, F, F, Friday!"
Neil.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:14 PM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never done the cutting of an input shaft, but i would probably go
> dremel myself. I would however recommend strongly against removing the input
> shaft, heating it to cherry in a forge, placing it on an anvil, and cutting
> it with a cold chisel. I really just cant see that method working out
> well....the end might be slightly distorted (but a good blacksmith with a
> skilled hammer should be able to take care of that).
> List that one under "ways NOT to cut input shaft".
>
> Hey, its friday.
> -Craig
> '85Gl
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <
>
>
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
> > it's surfaced hardened I believe.
> >
> > Once you get through the outer surface I don't think you'll find it as
> > hard.
> >
> > I just use an abrasive cut off saw.
> >
> > If you have a typical Skill saw, you can just get an abrasive blade for
> > that.
> >
> > But taking the bell housing off - I recommend that to help make it a
> > whole
> > lot easier.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:41 PM
> > To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
> > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> > Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
> > conversion)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Scott.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll be careful not to get debris anywhere it shouldn't be.
> >
> >
> >
> > Originally I thought a hack saw would do it but you guys are
> >
> > confirming what I suspected. Good hard German steel! (and bad angle)
> >
> > The Dermel option looks good.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/7/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What mark said is good.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I would add that you could barely do it with a hack saw, due to angle
> > and
> >
> > > due to how long it would take.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Btw, it's very easy to remove the bell housing, and that gives nice fat
> >
> > > access to the shaft if you are going to cut it in situ.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > One thing I would have minor concern about cutting it in place is fine
> > metal
> >
> > > particles going around and getting into tiny recesses of bearings and
> > pivot
> >
> > > points, like the cross shaft. Would make for a fine grit to wear or jam
> >
> > > things.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So far I have shortened all mine after removing the shaft from the
> >
> > > transmission. It's awfully fiddly and even maddening to do sometimes if
> >
> > > it's a difficult one, and I can appreciate the desire to shorten it in
> >
> > > place.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Scott
> >
> > >
> >
> > > www.turboavns.com <http://www.turboavns.com/>
> >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> >
> > > Mark Drillock
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:59 PM
> >
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
> >
> > > conversion)
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I cut them in the tranny. I use a heavy duty cutting disc in a Dremel,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > while someone else turns the shaft. I work a ring cut deeper and deeper
> >
> > >
> >
> > > as they turn one CV flange and hold the other still with the tranny in
> >
> > >
> >
> > > gear. The shaft is pretty hard and gets hot so I have a rag soaked with
> >
> > >
> >
> > > water wrapped around the rest of the shaft and another that I use to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > periodically cool the tip.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > After the cut I use an angle grinder to put a bevel on the edge of the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > tip, again while the shaft is turned.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The Dremel blade is an abrasive type with fiber reinforcing.
> >
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> >
> > > Mark
> >
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> > >
> >
> > > neil N wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Hi all.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Am getting closer to mounting the Jetta engine so am researching input
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > shaft stuff.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Can I cut the input shaft while it's still in the tranny?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > It looks possible, but I don't know if hacksawing away at it is be bad
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > for parts attached to it. Plus angling (shaping) the end might present
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > a challenge.
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> > >
> >
> > > > Thanks!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
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> > >
> >
> > > > Neil.
> >
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> >
> > > > --
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >
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Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
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