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Date:         Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:14:18 -0500
Reply-To:     craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
              conversion)
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <077501c880ae$9913b6d0$6401a8c0@DJZL7KF1>
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I have never done the cutting of an input shaft, but i would probably go dremel myself. I would however recommend strongly against removing the input shaft, heating it to cherry in a forge, placing it on an anvil, and cutting it with a cold chisel. I really just cant see that method working out well....the end might be slightly distorted (but a good blacksmith with a skilled hammer should be able to take care of that). List that one under "ways NOT to cut input shaft".

Hey, its friday. -Craig '85Gl

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> it's surfaced hardened I believe. > > Once you get through the outer surface I don't think you'll find it as > hard. > > I just use an abrasive cut off saw. > > If you have a typical Skill saw, you can just get an abrasive blade for > that. > > But taking the bell housing off - I recommend that to help make it a > whole > lot easier. > > Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:41 PM > To: Scott Daniel - Shazam > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine > conversion) > > > > Thanks Scott. > > > > I'll be careful not to get debris anywhere it shouldn't be. > > > > Originally I thought a hack saw would do it but you guys are > > confirming what I suspected. Good hard German steel! (and bad angle) > > The Dermel option looks good. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > On 3/7/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > > > What mark said is good. > > > > > > I would add that you could barely do it with a hack saw, due to angle > and > > > due to how long it would take. > > > > > > Btw, it's very easy to remove the bell housing, and that gives nice fat > > > access to the shaft if you are going to cut it in situ. > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing I would have minor concern about cutting it in place is fine > metal > > > particles going around and getting into tiny recesses of bearings and > pivot > > > points, like the cross shaft. Would make for a fine grit to wear or jam > > > things. > > > > > > So far I have shortened all mine after removing the shaft from the > > > transmission. It's awfully fiddly and even maddening to do sometimes if > > > it's a difficult one, and I can appreciate the desire to shorten it in > > > place. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > www.turboavns.com <http://www.turboavns.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of > > > Mark Drillock > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:59 PM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine > > > conversion) > > > > > > > > > > > > I cut them in the tranny. I use a heavy duty cutting disc in a Dremel, > > > > > > while someone else turns the shaft. I work a ring cut deeper and deeper > > > > > > as they turn one CV flange and hold the other still with the tranny in > > > > > > gear. The shaft is pretty hard and gets hot so I have a rag soaked with > > > > > > water wrapped around the rest of the shaft and another that I use to > > > > > > periodically cool the tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > After the cut I use an angle grinder to put a bevel on the edge of the > > > > > > tip, again while the shaft is turned. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Dremel blade is an abrasive type with fiber reinforcing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neil N wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am getting closer to mounting the Jetta engine so am researching input > > > > > > > shaft stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I cut the input shaft while it's still in the tranny? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks possible, but I don't know if hacksawing away at it is be bad > > > > > > > for parts attached to it. Plus angling (shaping) the end might present > > > > > > > a challenge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1318 - Release Date: > 3/7/2008 > > > 2:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1318 - Release Date: 3/7/2008 > 2:01 PM > > >


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