Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:42:15 -0700
Reply-To: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: body work vs. mechanical work
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Stomping your feet and saying "it isn't true", doesn't change the reality.
It was a simple question that a lot of people who have never done a
conversion would probably like to know. They'd probably also like to know
what level of mechanical ability you have.
The question was asked with sincerity and you responded derisively. Pretty
rude...
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob [mailto:becida@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:31 PM
To: VW Doka
Subject: Re: body work vs. mechanical work
Staying awake at night so you don't "lose" money has got to be a drag....
Rob
At 3/10/2008 07:20 PM,VW Doka wrote:
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not against conversions or doing it yourself. I
>just think it is unrealistic for anyone to say that their time is free.
>Everything has a cost, including "free time". Sorry, it's just those damn
>economics classes that I had to take in college kicking in... TANSTAFL
>
>So... just how much of your "free time" went into the conversion?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jeff
>
>
>On 3/10/08, Rob <becida@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Time? Of course there was time on it and that time didn't cost me a
> > dime, hell I enjoyed it!
> > More time than I expected but this isn't about what I or you do with
> > our free time, it's about "I have never heard of anyone doing a
> > conversion for less than just replacing the waterboxer with a rebuilt
> > one". Now you have.
> > Now if he had said that it was a lot faster to buy a ready to go
> > engine I'd have to agreed with him. Not more fun, not cheaper but
faster.
> > <shrug>
> >
> > Rob
> > becida@comcast.net
> >
> > At 3/10/2008 05:38 PM, VW Doka wrote:
> > >How many hours? And what is your time worth (be honest)?
> > >
> > >I know that some people don't count their own time as part of the
> > conversion
> > >cost, but does add up.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> > >Of Rob
> > >Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:00 PM
> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >Subject: Re: body work vs. mechanical work
> > >
> > >
> > >At 3/10/2008 02:55 PM, Kenneth Wilford wrote:
> > > >Andrew,
> > > >I have never heard of anyone doing a conversion for less than just
> > > >replacing the waterboxer with a rebuilt one.
> > >
> > >Here is what it cost to put a '91 Subaru 2.2 into my 1987 Vanagon
> > >after the VW engine put a rod thru the case. This is from a post I
> > >sent to the Subaruvanagon list after I was done.
> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
> > >$2109.87 was the total spent (near as I can tell) including shipping
and
> > >taxes.
> > >
> > >The header, mount, wiring guide, throttle kit, PS hose, Shiels thermo
> > >housing, adapter/flywheel, was $1137.94
> > >
> > >When you include a new radiator (my helper over torqued the bleed
> > >bolt and cracked it), oil psi gauges, clutch & cat converter I spent
> > >$500.42 at BusDepot.
> > >These things were not necessarily part of the conversion, just things
> > >that needed to be done.
> > >
> > >$164.08 at the Subaru dealer (on-line). This was a new timing belt
> > >and assorted seals & o-rings.
> > >
> > >The donor ended up costing $185.
> > >
> > >I have $122.23 in misc receipts from assorted FLAPS & hardware stores
> > >including the hoses & hardware.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Rob
> > >becida@comcast.net
> >
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