Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:13:05 -0700
Reply-To: Donna Skarloken <dskarloken@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Donna Skarloken <dskarloken@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Weirdness
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Keith, I just now paid attention to your post. For whatever reason I
thought slow filling/inability to fill up the syncro tank was normal
(probably because I have a similar problem with my old 74 bus and just
figured it was the weird angle and the new style pumps).
It sounds like I may have the same issue - I cannot fill the tank. Doesn't
matter where I fill up, though it helps if the station does not have the
bulky hose recovery vapor thingy on the end (occasionally I run across a
station that does not have those). Usually I wind up putting in about 10
gallons and just letting it go at that.
I do not smell fumes in the inside of the bus or anywhere around the
outside. I just seem to have the filling issue.
Donna, 1987 Syncro
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Keith Ovregaard <kovregaard@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Thanks guys for your feedback.
>
> I was hoping that I would not have to remove the tank, but It does
> seem that's where the problem exists. Dropping a syncro tank does not
> sound like fun and I think I'd have to get my mechanic to handle that
> task. There goes more $$!!!
>
> The filler and vent hose that runs to the filler neck are sealed well
> at that end. As Ken mentioned, the question is what's happening at the
> other end of that vent hose. If there is a kink and/or bad seal where
> it enters the top of the tank, that would certainly explain the poor
> filling and fumes. BTW, all of the fuel station pumps I've ever used
> have had trouble getting the last few gallons in the tank, so it's not
> the pumps fault.
>
> One thing I have not tried is to disconnect the vent hose at the
> filler and blow air into it to see if there is good flow into the
> tank. There should be air coming back out the filler when I do that,
> right?
>
> Oh, and thanks to Jeff for bringing over his syncro. We found out that
> his WBX'r had the bottom vent hose of the charcoal filter exhaust to
> atmosphere, not into air cleaner, Bentley mentioned. Also, his Subaru
> conversion charcoal filter vents to atmosphere, so no issues there.
> Must be that the non-syncro models vented to the air cleaner for some
> odd reason.
>
> Keith O
> 90 Westy Syncro (VikingWagen)
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:04:52 -0800
> > From: Kim Springer <kimspringer@RCN.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Weirdness
> >
> > I would drop the tank, give it a reseal kit and blow out the vent
> > line that
> > goes from the top of the filler neck and into the top of the tank.
> >
> > When you fill the tank, there is no perfect seal from the nozzle on
> > the
> > pump, so air should be able to vent while filling it up. At the
> > bottom of
> > the fillier neck, mine has (about) a 3/4" ball in a cage that's part
> > of the
> > filler neck, to keep fuel from backing up the filler neck (I guess
> > on hard
> > corners or roll-overs). I suppose it could be that this ball is
> > stuck in
> > some way, blocking the entrance of fuel at the bottom of the filler
> > neck.
> >
> > Can't think of anything else, unless you are using the same pump at
> > the same
> > station and it has to do with the pump and not your van?
> >
> > Kim
>
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