Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:40:25 -0700
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
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Thanks Jake.
How bout' I price a new cat online, freak over the price, then bug you
for the figures?
--- ;^)
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Jake de Villiers
<crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> If Maiken wasn't at her Yoga class, I could go out and get you comparative
> numbers from her 1990 Golf and the vans.
>
> Give you a solid comparison.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:08 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Problem? That's an interesting question.
> >
> > Obviously the Jetta 2.0 was designed to run with a cat. I don't know
> > how much higher the emissions would be if it wasn't installed. I also
> > don't know if emissions would end up being the same as my air cooled
> > was at.
> >
> > I'm mostly putting the cat in because of "green guilt" !
> >
> > Oh my aching conscience .... ;^)
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jake de Villiers
> >
> >
> >
> > <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We do have annual emissions testing, at least so far, but there's no
> > > 'visual' like the California test. If you blow clean, you blow clean,
> no
> > > questions asked.
> > >
> > > Which makes sense to me. If you've done an engine swap that makes your
> car
> > > pollute less, what's the problem?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Dennis Haynes
> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Oops!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > *From:* Jake de Villiers [mailto:crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com]
> > >
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2008 8:49 PM
> > > > *To:* Dennis Haynes
> > > > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > *Subject:* Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dennis, Neil & I are in British Columbia, Canada; not yet a state.
> :)
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Dennis Haynes
> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Since you are installing a later engine, you are required to have all
> of
> > > > the emissions equipment that was on that engine-vehicle when it was
> > > > manufactured. This is a federal requirement. We are just lucky that
> at the
> > > > state level, few states have enforcement for conversions or better
> yet
> > > > there are so many areas that do not even have emissions programs.
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > neil N
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:15 PM
> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jake et al.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out the whole parts scavenging was a bust. The spare front
> lower
> > > > grill had a broken tang at the bottom and the cat and exhaust looked
> > > > pretty iffy.
> > > >
> > > > The van was pretty much gone through by the time I got there.
> > > >
> > > > Pretty sure my '81 isn't technically required to have a cat. Just
> > > > trying to be nicer to the oxygen we breath by installing one.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Neil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Jake de Villiers
> > > > <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hey Neil, most Subaru conversions use the original cat and muffler
> > > > assembly
> > > > > very successfully.
> > > > >
> > > > > Both the 2.2 and 2.5 litre motors use them , the 2.2 even passes
> > > > California
> > > > > smog testing.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Roger Sisler
> > > > <ROGERSISLER2000@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I used a 1.9 catalytic converter on my 93 Fox. Works fine, is
> the
> > > > same
> > > > > > part number, and passed emissions. It looks rather high mileage.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jake
> > > > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > > Crescent Beach, BC
> > > > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> > > >
> > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jake
> > > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > Crescent Beach, BC
> > > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > >
> http://subyjakegooglepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27<http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jake
> > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > Crescent Beach, BC
> > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> Crescent Beach, BC
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
--
Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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